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Ok this game will be fun ,Tuesday OKC vs Utah

- With subpar defense at PG, the defense just isn't going to look the same, it puts more pressure on Favors and Gobert to help a split second faster, which results in them biting on pump fakes and quick dump-off passes to someone open around the rim..

excellent point. This is the first issue we need to fix. Gotta get back to that identity from the second half of last year. Start from there.
 
Knee jerkin so hard.

I think there are legit areas to improve, legit critiques but yea there is some knee jerking.

Favors and Gobert are better rebounders than what they showed last night. So is the interior D.

But 3 point shooting continue to be a problem. It shows that the Jazz are not on the level of OKC, Warriors, Cavs and other elite teams but we already knew that.

Aside form the Jazz getting embarrassed the Jazz won or tied the other 3 quarters. Snyder has this team dialed in. He knows what needs to be fixed and I expect him to have them working on it.
Outside shooting has to be addressed.
 
maybe you're believin' too hard in those 30 games? just maybe?

it's pretty rough when the accusation you're making can be just as easily applied to you.

I don't think I have ever said anything about "those 30 games"...

To be honest, I think a lot of positives came from last night's game.. it's good to have an eye opener like that for the squad, especially when the game doesn't even count. The quote from Quin I see as a big positive going forward really. The notion that we are "prepared to tank" because of these preseason outcomes is laughable.
 
there's only one person talking about tanks.

Fair enough. But people are also judging this team a little harsh.

OKC is a favorite to get to the finals.

Jazz need to work on spacing, 3 point shooting, FTs and the PG position is weak. But we already knew all this.

What I saw is a championship quality team throw the first heavy punches and rock our team. Then I saw our team buckle down and hang with them thru 3 quarters. OKC is clearly the better team but I saw the progress the Jazz have made and that we still have a way to go.

It's not like we are all talking about the Jazz being a contender. We have been talking about the Jazz being the 8th or 7th seed. Jazz will have to fight for it and figure some things out (like those listed above) but it is doable. And I think they will.
 
the jazz haven't looked like a playoff team this preseason, even when you pick through the usual excuses about the preseason. I don't know what they're accomplishing in practice, however. Maybe Q is using these games to get reps for one-on-one skill development (it sure as hell looks like that)? But that seems like an odd thing to devote 90% of the preseason to.

Playing with the pass = fail. The offense has been bad.
Getting back to good form on defense = pretty much a fail.
Spacing = real bad.

There are plenty of legitimate reasons to be worried, especially considering the gauntlet that is our early-season schedule.
 
I couldn't watch the game last night but followed it via tweets. In my view, commenters were firmly locked in overreaction mode. Many good teams are going to be embarrased by OKC this year. This is the first game all preseason in which we've actually tried, and it was against on of the 4 best teams in the league. In an 82 game season, every team has bad games. San Antonio got pummeled by Phoenix last night, even playing its major players 25 plus minutes. This happens.

With that said, I am concerned a bit about Gobert, as he seems to lack the fire he had before. Something seems off with him.
 
Yesterday's game is indicative as to what I'm saying. This team is good and talented, but still too inconsistent. We played pretty well excluding the first quarter. Jazz I think will have a lot of games like yesterday where they will lose because they had a really bad quarter or half. There is still plenty of refining to do. This doesn't mean I'm down on the Jazz just being realistic.
 
I couldn't watch the game last night but followed it via tweets. In my view, commenters were firmly locked in overreaction mode. Many good teams are going to be embarrased by OKC this year. This is the first game all preseason in which we've actually tried, and it was against on of the 4 best teams in the league. In an 82 game season, every team has bad games. San Antonio got pummeled by Phoenix last night, even playing its major players 25 plus minutes. This happens.

With that said, I am concerned a bit about Gobert, as he seems to lack the fire he had before. Something seems off with him.

Perhaps Rudy is tired.
 
Yesterday's game is indicative as to what I'm saying. This team is good and talented, but still too inconsistent. We played pretty well excluding the first quarter. Jazz I think will have a lot of games like yesterday where they will lose because they had a really bad quarter or half. There is still plenty of refining to do. This doesn't mean I'm down on the Jazz just being realistic.

That was the problem in the early part of the season last year--they'd fall way behind in the first quarter by up to 20 points and play the rest of the game frantically trying to catch up. I really, really hope that pattern is not repeated this year.
 
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