OKC or San Antonio?

[Saint Cy of JFC]

I'm just along for the ride, but the current playoff/no playoff situation reminds me a lot of the banter surrounding the Deron trade. There were those who were upset that our immediate winning potential had decreased, and those who accepted this reality but posited that the long-term benefit was worth the sacrifice. Except it seemed much more lopsided at the time -- not nearly the deluge of "you play to win no matter what!" arguments that I'm seeing in this thread. The prevailing attitude more closely resembled that of an investor: "you gotta spend money to make money".

I think the Jazz will be better off long-term if they miss out on the playoffs this year. And I'm relatively young, so I'm all about increasing the odds of seeing a championship before I die, even if it means missing out on four playoff games next month. YB, on the other hand....I can understand where he's coming from. I'm secretly hoping that the Jazz make the playoffs, however (don't tell bordelais7), so that I can continue to observe -- and participate in -- the spectacle known as Jazzfanz. Thank you all in advance.

Hmm. Seems like a different situation because KOC had obviously seen something in Dwill that he thought was special. If KOC thinks there is anyone in this draft that he has to have, he should be able to get them (outside of Davis).

 

[bordelais7]

Should have specified which Deron trade. I was referring to the one which sent him away from Utah.

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

Should have specified which Deron trade. I was referring to the one which sent him away from Utah.

OH, in that case, I think the trade was done because KOC wanted to avoid the media circus that would come with his contract year.

 

[mrob]

No doubt, if Stern decided to expand the playoffs to 22 teams, some dumbass Bobcats fan would be preaching the same cardboard cutout arguments being made on this board about how the playoff fairy sprinkles her magic dust on their team, and therefore turns them into something they're not. A good team.

Well, if the playoff fairy doesn't work, hopefully we'll get the draft fairy to turn our mid-round pick into a superstar.

 

[spycam1]

Well, if the playoff fairy doesn't work, hopefully we'll get the draft fairy to turn our mid-round pick into a superstar.

The difference between your sarcastic remark and freak's is that his was referring to something you people are actually arguing. No one thinks we could get a superstar at the end of the lottery, simply a good player.

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

We should have never made the playoffs the entire Dwill era. We would be set by now.

 

[mrob]

We should have never made the playoffs the entire Dwill era. We would be set by now.

Rep'd.

Seriously it feels like some on the board would argue this is a good idea. Since the Clips are doing better these days, maybe we should take their place.

 

[BluesRocker]

We should have never made the playoffs the entire Dwill era. We would be set by now.

This


Deron Williams
Russel Westbrook
Kevin Durant/Gordon Hayward
Blake Griffin/ Derrick Favors
Lamarcus Aldridge/ Enes Kanter


That's what would have happened if we tanked until this year

Not a bad team

 

[mrob]

This


Deron Williams
Russel Westbrook
Kevin Durant/Gordon Hayward
Blake Griffin/ Derrick Favors
Lamarcus Aldridge/ Enes Kanter


That's what would have happened if we tanked until this year

Not a bad team

You're going to make it really hard to tank with those players so we can get the 2012 #1 pick. Guess we can round out the roster with some D-Leaguers so that we lose enough games to still get into the lottery.

 

[freakazoid]

We should have never made the playoffs the entire Dwill era. We would be set by now.

Rep'd.

Seriously it feels like some on the board would argue this is a good idea. Since the Clips are doing better these days, maybe we should take their place.

And the INCREDIBLE irony here, is that there never would have been a D-Will era, had we not had multiple picks in that draft. You know, those worthless trade assets that never help teams like the Jazz.

 

[mrob]

And the INCREDIBLE irony here, is that there never would have been a D-Will era, had we not had a multiple picks in that draft. You know, those worthless trade assets that never help teams like the Jazz.

Wait. I don't think anyone (including me) is suggesting that draft picks don't have any value. Obviously our ability to accumulate picks through trades along with a bad record one season allowed us to get DWill. What I've been saying and what I assume others that agree are saying is that chasing draft picks at the expense of our current success is wrong and largely ineffective. That's not the same thing.

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

You're going to make it really hard to tank with those players so we can get the 2012 #1 pick. Guess we can round out the roster with some D-Leaguers so that we lose enough games to still get into the lottery.

They all convert to Mormonism their rookie years and do their 2 year mission trips. That is how we should have tanked.