Old propaganda film, anyone know where to watch

[JimLes]

Its in Elsternwick, I went there with my girlfriend about 20 years ago, you could still meet and talk with survivors back then.

Surely, there are survivors still around. Our Jewish community here in Calgary is about 8000 people and there are 120 or so survivors still alive. Obviously, most of them were children, but we have at least 10 or so who were born before 1930.

 

[Rubashov]

Surely, there are survivors still around. Our Jewish community here in Calgary is about 8000 people and there are 120 or so survivors still alive. Obviously, most of them were children, but we have at least 10 or so who were born before 1930.

Yeah probs, back when I went to the museum in the early 2000's there was generally always one or two survivors there volunteering as guides or just happy to have a chat and share there experiences over a coffee with visitors, it was pretty cool. (wrong choice of word but you get what i mean) It was a living history kind of experience, I remember we probably spent more time talking about their life after the camps, about coming to Melbourne being a new Australian all that stuff.

A couple of friends of mine come from families that experienced that diaspora, it was kind of interesting, one of the fella's I used to work with came from a family of Austrian Jews, Pete's pushing 80 now, he will never buy a German car. Another friend of mine Nathan, I remember going to his funeral knowing that he came from a family of survivors, I was kinda worried about showing up in a BMW, but when I got there all of his relatives under 30 all had Audi's and BMW's I kninda thought its funny how within a few generations perspectives can change.

 

[LogGrad98]

Surely, there are survivors still around. Our Jewish community here in Calgary is about 8000 people and there are 120 or so survivors still alive. Obviously, most of them were children, but we have at least 10 or so who were born before 1930.

Yeah probs, back when I went to the museum in the early 2000's there was generally always one or two survivors there volunteering as guides or just happy to have a chat and share there experiences over a coffee with visitors, it was pretty cool. (wrong choice of word but you get what i mean) It was a living history kind of experience, I remember we probably spent more time talking about their life after the camps, about coming to Melbourne being a new Australian all that stuff.

A couple of friends of mine come from families that experienced that diaspora, it was kind of interesting, one of the fella's I used to work with came from a family of Austrian Jews, Pete's pushing 80 now, he will never buy a German car. Another friend of mine Nathan, I remember going to his funeral knowing that he came from a family of survivors, I was kinda worried about showing up in a BMW, but when I got there all of his relatives under 30 all had Audi's and BMW's I kninda thought its funny how within a few generations perspectives can change.

I think at this point most remaining survivors were children during the whole thing. I know when we went to the holocaust memorial in Berlin they had 2 or 3 people there working the museum who were survivors and they were all young children at the time. One guy said his only memory of it all was his father being arrested and then he and his mother and siblings fleeing the country. They were lucky to be reunited with him some years later, he didn't really know how. He said he was maybe 4 or 5 or something at the time. Most of those who were old enough to have vivid memories at this point have passed on.


Side note, the official name of that memorial in Berlin is "Memorial to the Murdered Jews of Europe" (Denkmal für die ermordeten Juden Europas in German). Pretty on the nose and bleak, and so is the memorial. I recommend a visit if you ever get the chance though. Like a block away from Brandenburg Gate. The Jewish Museum in Berlin, also in the general area, is a really good visit too. Not as well known, but worth a visit if you are there. I could go on an on about places to visit in Berlin though.

 

[Miggs]

Taught Night for a few years. Our curriculum changed though and blows now.

 

[Deleted member 365]

I have not read "Night." Better change that.

It’s fantastic and not overly graphic. It’s not dry. It’s not too long. It’s just a solid interesting book documenting his experiences at Auschwitz (over 7,000 reviews).
Amazon product ASIN B000E6G978View: https://www.amazon.com/Night-Elie-Wiesel-audiobook/dp/B000E6G978/ref=mp_s_a_1_1?crid=33G65TYZOBSIU&keywords=night+elie+wiesel&qid=1651935214&sprefix=night+e%2Caps%2C173&sr=8-1


This one is also fantastic (over 3,000 reviews). But it’s a bit more graphic than Night.

These two books are some of the best I’ve read on the Holocaust.
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[Deleted member 365]

Taught Night for a few years. Our curriculum changed though and blows now.

As it should. The Holocaust might make kids feel uncomfortable and learn something. We can’t have that. So instead we teach that the Holocaust didn’t happen and that black people were happy being enslaved and god appeared personally to the founding fathers to found the country and write the 2nd amendment….

 

[LogGrad98]

We took 2 of our kids to Dachau when we were in Germany. It was a very sobering experience for them. My daughter was 14 and now at 20 she still talks about it in hushed tones. It's an entirely different thing to be there and walk the grounds.

I've read both of those books and think they are great. Really well done. That era was terrifying in ways we just cannot comprehend.

 

[JimLes]

If anyone wants to read a story or two of the survivors in different categories(from those who were in ghettos to those who were evacuated), my organization published a book about a decade ago. I know some of the people personally, as well as being close to grandchildren of a few of them.

Голоса Стойкости

www.google.ca

 

[JimLes]

Also, a story from a University instructor of mine. This lady named Connie taught me a class on German culture(the only class in my first degree I got an A+ in). She was a German and a Gentile, born in the late 60s. Even her parents might not have had memories of the war, but they'd all been raised with the knowledge of what happened and denazification and everything that happened in West Germany after the war. She lived in Bonn, which was then the temporary capital of Germany. One year in high school, they went on a 10-day class trip all over southeast West Germany. This is obviously before the reunification, but at the time when it was becoming a little more acceptable to be a German nationalist. To a degree, anyway.

The two teacher chaperones were a middle-aged music teacher and a younger geography teacher. Both male. At the beginning of the trip, they were in Beyrouth for one of the many, many Wagner festivals there. If you don't know how Wagner felt about Jews, Google it. They watched a performance of Siegfried and the music teacher was just about orgasming. This is a man who was apparently also a local activist of CDU(think Republicans). When the cast came out for their bow, he encouraged all the students to stand up and applaud. Then he said "Marvel children, at what only a German intellect can conceive of."

They then went south into Bavaria and did all kinds of sightseeing, and then on one of the last days, they went to Dachau. Connie said the whole tour was harrowing, but the fact that it ended in gas chambers made it particularly difficult. At this point, the students were all trying to hold back tears. Even though this was a solemn occasion and not a tour of some Bavarian castle, there was still a bit of chit chat between students along the way. Not in the gas chamber, though. It was deadly quiet, and then a voice in the back said "Marvel children, at what only a German intellect can conceive of." The geography teacher, who turns out was a socialist. Connie said all the kids wept. Just wept for several minutes. Many of them had to sit on the floor and several of them were hugging and holding onto the geography teacher. Only after a few minutes did they notice that the music teacher was standing against the wall, red in the face and shaking with rage. The whole drive back to Munich no one said a word, apparently.

 

[Miggs]

As it should. The Holocaust might make kids feel uncomfortable and learn something. We can’t have that. So instead we teach that the Holocaust didn’t happen and that black people were happy being enslaved and god appeared personally to the founding fathers to found the country and write the 2nd amendment….

Nah. I don’t live in Utah. That has nothing to do with why we changed the curriculum. The lexile level is like 4th-5th grade and my boss deemed it too easy for HS kids.