Olympics Thread

[Saint Cy of JFC]

Male has 20 times the level of testosterone to female.

How is that a fair fight?

What do you know about testosterone? Do you have any idea what you're talking about? How has the Algerian boxer lost so many matches with such high T levels if it's an insane advantage?

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

Uhh, what? It's a great argument.

It’s not lol

Women/Mens sports exist because there's an even distribution men and women in the world.

Yes because it’s an even population lol. Nope.

And yes, 6 foot and under leagues do exist. If you want to be a short king who is scared of playing taller guys, you can go join a weaker league and play. They don't exist on a professional level because on a pro level people want to see the best.

My bad can I sign up to represent the country in the men’s Olympics under 6 foot league? Jebus I understand for rec purposes there are a billion types of leagues including men and women mixed leagues. Don’t be stupid.

So any genetic advantage you have should be celebrated and allowed. Proving male/female should be as simple as possible and not require incredibly invasive testing to prove either way. Were you born a man or woman? Pretty simple.

I don’t disagree that it should be simple. Certain people’s biology is not that simple though. I’m fine if this is the standard though. I’m not smart enough to determine the standard but would like to avoid unnecessary invasive testing at pretty much all costs.

I would go a step further and allow people who transition to compete as the sex they transitioned to, but I get that is more radical for the current times.

I’m not smart enough to make that determination.

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

IDK how it works in females, but having hyper elevated T for a male vs other males isn't a big advantage as long as the other males have their T levels at a normal level . I think T levels is such a hyped thing because of marketing towards males who are out of shape in their 30s to get on TRT.

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

Yes because it’s an even population lol. Nope.

Please enlighten me then. It's not about being even. If it was being even we would see males and females complete against each other based on predeterminations about their athletic progress in a given sport.

1. That would be incredibly difficult and laborious
2. We do it by male/female because it's easy and gives the most representation to a wide range of the population (because male/female are evenly distributed if no human interference)

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

Please enlighten me then. It's not about being even. If it was being even we would see males and females complete against each other based on predeterminations about their athletic progress in a given sport.

1. That would be incredibly difficult and laborious
2. We do it by male/female because it's easy and gives the most representation to a wide range of the population (because male/female are evenly distributed if no human interference)

I didn’t think you could get any dumber… but here we are.

 

[HermanG]

Inclusivity of 0.0000000001% of population shouldn’t come at the expense or harm of the vast majority.

That’s my take.

My take is that the goal of your take was just to light the board on fire after the super polarizing discussion had already died.

 

[fishonjazz]

Male has 20 times the level of testosterone to female.

How is that a fair fight?

We are not talking about a male boxing against a female
We are talking about a female with more testerone boxing against a female. Like a male with more testerone boxing against a male. Or a male with longer arms boxing against a male.

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[The Midnight]

The female boxer who started this whole conversation had like a 15-9 record with elevated T levels. High testosterone has its advantages, but isn't the end all be all to being a great athlete.

Try asking other female athletes and see if they think it’s fair.

 

[fishonjazz]

Uhh, what? It's a great argument.

Women/Mens sports exist because there's an even distribution men and women in the world.

I disagree here. If there were no men's and women's leagues then there would just be no women at all in most sports (at the top levels).

The reason there are women's and men's leagues is to be fair.

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[fishonjazz]

Try asking other female athletes and see if they think it’s fair.

They have been asked and the answer is yes, they think it's fair for female boxers to box against other female boxers.

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[Saint Cy of JFC]

I didn’t think you could get any dumber… but here we are.

You have offered absolutely nothing other than just grandstanding on a "both sides" argument of nothingness

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

Try asking other female athletes and see if they think it’s fair.

They seem to think it's fair because they fight her and beat her. The Italian just wanted to make some money being a grifter.