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On the radar: 2012 Draft Class

JJAS said:
Don't forget about good ol' Al Jefferson: 42.6ppg/18rpg/4ast./7blks
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Problem with quoting HS stats though is you don't know the quality of competition he was around. Take Big Al for instance, he grew up in a small rural area of Mississippi. There isn't going to much talent in small schools around the area, so of course he is going to own.
 
Cyrone Torbin said:
Problem with quoting HS stats though is you don't know the quality of competition he was around. Take Big Al for instance, he grew up in a small rural area of Mississippi. There isn't going to much talent in small schools around the area, so of course he is going to own.
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Incredibly true. We've seen players average 40 points per game, be their high school's all-time phenom, yet walk-on at a major D1 school and get no more than about 40 minutes of court time in four years, total. Yet we see other players, that play at the highest level of competition average 15 points or less (at the same age) see no reduction, and many times significant increases, in production when making the transition to college.
 
Cyrone Torbin said:
Problem with quoting HS stats though is you don't know the quality of competition he was around. Take Big Al for instance, he grew up in a small rural area of Mississippi. There isn't going to much talent in small schools around the area, so of course he is going to own.
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True. I was just adding to what the poster above provided. Al's stats were so outlandish that I thought we could include them. In Al's defense, he did score over 44 points in the final three games of his AAU team tournament. There's no question he dominated high school, which means almost nothing. He was picked 15th in the NBA, and here we are. Also, I don't think any one would be surprised to see Al average 23, 11, 2, 2 (but at what cost?).
 
PKM said:
Incredibly true. We've seen players average 40 points per game, be their high school's all-time phenom, yet walk-on at a major D1 school and get no more than about 40 minutes of court time in four years, total. Yet we see other players, that play at the highest level of competition average 15 points or less (at the same age) see no reduction, and many times significant increases, in production when making the transition to college.
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Who?
 
PKM said:
IF you were asking who averaged 40 points but did nothing in college, I can give you dozens .. one of which is Preston LeMaster (walk-on for UK).
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Who did nothing in high school and then suddenly got better? I realize at least one answer to some degree (Alec Burks), but what about players that have all the talent in the world?
 
NUMBERICA said:
Who did nothing in high school and then suddenly got better? I realize at least one answer to some degree (Alec Burks), but what about players that have all the talent in the world?
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No, he was awesome in high school and then suddenly could do nothing at the next level. I'll provide plenty that didn't do as much in high school as college. Understand that I'm really referring to a great player that may be utilized differently depending on the college team he may choose (playing time, position, quality of supporting cast, etc.)
 
SalmonHobo said:
Still waiting for who...
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Damn .. this is a day that I'm actually, gulp, working. Okay, how about Doron Lamb shot 38% in high school (from 3) and then, with a better supporting cast spreading the defense, shot 48% from 3 in his first year of college. Dwayne Wade carried a RSCI rank of #51 (I believe) in his HIGH SCHOOL class before becoming the 5th overall pick in the draft.

Marshon Brooks fits this category in my opinion (it's all about subjective).
Jimmer Fredette (yep)
Westbrook
Curry
Granger
Millsap
Hayward
McGee
Jason Thompson
Maynor
Okafor
Wesley Johnson

All of these guys did much better than expected when moving from high school to college. I'm not sure I'm understanding your question, though .. so let me know.
 
PKM said:
Damn .. this is a day that I'm actually, gulp, working. Okay, how about Doron Lamb shot 38% in high school (from 3) and then, with a better supporting cast spreading the defense, shot 48% from 3 in his first year of college. Dwayne Wade carried a RSCI rank of #51 (I believe) in his HIGH SCHOOL class before becoming the 5th overall pick in the draft.

Marshon Brooks fits this category in my opinion (it's all about subjective).
Jimmer Fredette (yep)
Westbrook
Curry
Granger
Millsap
Hayward
McGee
Jason Thompson
Maynor
Okafor
Wesley Johnson

All of these guys did much better than expected when moving from high school to college. I'm not sure I'm understanding your question, though .. so let me know.
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Lamb and Wade are bad examples. In the previous analogies, the stats were heavily based on quantity/volume. One season in which Lamnb jumps in three point percentage hardly relates or eqautes. Nor does Wade's HS ranking. He still put up 27/11 as a senior. Try again.
 
SalmonHobo said:
Lamb and Wade are bad examples. In the previous analogies, the stats were heavily based on quantity/volume. One season in which Lamnb jumps in three point percentage hardly relates or eqautes. Nor does Wade's HS ranking. He still put up 27/11 as a senior. Try again.
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Westbrook was ranked from 100 to 300 in his high school class.
Stephen Curry was ranked in the 500's.
Kevin Martin only had 1 Div1 offer (Western Carolina)
Granger was ranked around 400.
Devin Harris was 200+.
Chris Kaman wasn't ranked at all.
Paul Millsap???
Okafor around 150.
Hayward was a two-star
Maynor was 300+.

Stop hating. These kids obviously picked up their games at the next level.
 
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