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On the radar: 2012 Draft Class

NUMBERICA said:
Honestly, looking a year ahead and really knowing nothing, I'd trade the GS pick for Jrue Holiday if Barnes and Gilchrist either don't look good or won't be on the board.

But again, that depends on a lot of factors that we don't know.
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One of those factors being our ability to trade up in the draft. But I'm sure Jefferson/Millsap gives us a legit shot at moving up a few spots, if need be, in order to get one of the elite SFs.
 
Just for fun, I thought I would post all the players in this thread and what school they're going to ... in case anyone wants to watch a few games. :)

Anthony Davis - Kentucky
Marquis Teague - Kentucky
Terrence Jones - Kentucky
Michael Gilchrist - Kentucky
Andre Drummond - UCon
Jeremy Lamb - UCon
Austin Rivers - dUKe
Harrison Barnes - North Carolina
Kendall Marshall - North Carolina
James McAdoo - North Carolina
Quincy Miller - Baylor
Perry Jones - Baylor
Myck Kabongo - Texas
Tony Wroten - Washington
Jared Sullinger - Ohio State
Brad Beal - Florida
 
spycam1 said:
It amazes me that many mock drafts have Gilchrist outside of the top 10. I'm not even convinced that Barnes has better long term potential.
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Barnes got momentum leading up to last year's draft that was perceived as a bit weak. That's still carrying over, but it will change when it starts sinking in how good this draft class is. To be honest, I don't necessarily see Barnes as a better prospect than Terrence Jones, or Gordon Hayward for that matter, but that's just me. I still see Barnes as a Luol Deng type, which isn't bad if he's playing off other good players.
 
Catchall said:
Barnes got momentum leading up to last year's draft that was perceived as a bit weak. That's still carrying over, but it will change when it starts sinking in how good this draft class is. To be honest, I don't necessarily see Barnes as a better prospect than Terrence Jones, or Gordon Hayward for that matter, but that's just me. I still see Barnes as a Luol Deng type, which isn't bad if he's playing off other good players.
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I'd be surprised if Barnes turns out to be just another Deng. I really like him, I just don't think he's the next Michael Jordan or Kobe Bryant like lots of people. I'd peg him as more of Danny Granger with better athleticism, basketball IQ, and commitment to defense.
 
This is an honest question, since I have absolutely no knowledge of these players, but what makes Gilchrist better than Kahwi Leonard? Sounds like a very simimilar type of player. Or is it just simply that he's similar but better?
 
Gilchrist basketball iq is the big difference to Leonard. I would also say intangibles. Making the players around him better.
 
NUMBERICA said:
Honestly, looking a year ahead and really knowing nothing, I'd trade the GS pick for Jrue Holiday if Barnes and Gilchrist either don't look good or won't be on the board.

But again, that depends on a lot of factors that we don't know.
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I wouldn't. There are several guys in this draft that will be a lot better than Holiday. The Jazz can always trade one of their established players (Millsap, Jefferson or Harris) for a player like Holiday.
 
I am going to be pissed if the League changes the 1 year to 2 year requirement before entering the NBA. I would be happy if the Jazz got Gilchrist, Barnes, Beal, Woten, Teague etc. This lottery is loaded. I know people are comparing Gilchrist to Pippen but when I watched him he moved more like Jordan. I am not saying he is going to be like Jordan but his athleticism reminded me of Jordan. I was really impressed with Woten as a PG during USA tournament. My concern with Woten is I've heard that he needs to mature a little and there might have been some attitude issues. However, the kid can pass the ball.
 
cowhide said:
I am going to be pissed if the League changes the 1 year to 2 year requirement before entering the NBA. I would be happy if the Jazz got Gilchrist, Barnes, Beal, Woten, Teague etc. This lottery is loaded. I know people are comparing Gilchrist to Pippen but when I watched him he moved more like Jordan. I am not saying he is going to be like Jordan but his athleticism reminded me of Jordan. I was really impressed with Woten as a PG during USA tournament. My concern with Woten is I've heard that he needs to mature a little and there might have been some attitude issues. However, the kid can pass the ball.
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These are valid concerns for Wroten. He's been twitter happy, lazy, and selfish ... none of which would keep me from taking a chance on the kid. Some of these kids have just lacked good parenting/mentoring and get things straight once they do ... and Tony has never shown he's a 'bad' kid.
 
idiot said:
This is an honest question, since I have absolutely no knowledge of these players, but what makes Gilchrist better than Kahwi Leonard? Sounds like a very simimilar type of player. Or is it just simply that he's similar but better?
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Leonard has never been seen as a top-shelf elite prospect (except by MWC fans). <---- I know some will take major exception to that.
Gilchrist was named the best high school player in the nation (at any grade/age) as a freshman (fwiw, Wall was a senior at that same time). Since then, he has maintained that level of play, night in ad night out, for the next four years. Why is he not the #1 pick in the mocks? Most believe he has been so well known/followed, for so long, that other players have simply been the new thing (have to shake up the rankings for hits, ya' know?).

Do I believe Gilchrist is the best NBA prospect in the nation? Probably not, when factoring position, ticket sales (the sexy player), etc. However, as a baller, there's no one in college basketball that is 'clearly' better.

Back to Leonard. Gilchrist is more athletic, WAY better understanding of the game, goes 110% every second, team leader, character to perfection, phenomenal instincts on rebounding, finding the open man, hitting the big shot, and he will be a defensive all-star. In short, yes, he's just WAY better.
 
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