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Outta Compton....Good for race issues or bad?

Ice Cube

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He mostly acts in comedies these days.

Dr. Dre
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Made a **** ton one his headphones, Beats by Dre.

MC Ren
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Who knows what he's up to?

Eazy-E
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Died of AIDS back in the 90s
 
Ice Cube

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He mostly acts in comedies these days.

Dr. Dre
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Made a **** ton one his headphones, Beats by Dre.

MC Ren
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Who knows what he's up to?

Eazy-E
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Died of AIDS back in the 90s

Dr.Dre sold his Beats headphones to Apple for 3 billion dollars last year. ****ing ridiculous how much $$$ that dudes makes. He probably still makes millions off of Eminem too.
 
So we are trying to find a showing of straigt outta compton. I would like to go see it if I can. I watched a video about the anti-cop anthem, F Tha Police and then this blurb:

https://www.yahoo.com/movies/ice-cube-f-tha-police-straight-outta-compton-126617154952.html

And it got me to wondering. Did this song do anything to help race relations, or hurt them, or neutral (as in not a big enough impact from one song or group or whatever). The part that struck me were things like this from the lyrics:

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And then this statement from the yahoo article:




So I was just wondering, is it worse now than it was then? The same? Did their song and their band have any influence on race in this country at all? If so, was it good or bad?

I can't help but think that it didn't do good things for the movement. Driving the wedge in deeper seems to be counterproductive. It could be argued that it shed some light on the subject, but pissing off a lot of young black men and giving the racist cops out there something to latch onto doesn't seem to be the best light to shed on the topic.

I wish we had someone of color on this board that was around then and can really assess before and after. I googled for something that might give us some foundation for a discussion here but couldn't find much about the issue say during the 80's and then into the late 90's and 00's.

Thoughts?


You are so, so a 50 year old white dude.
 
NWA didn't help black people like white people more-- it seriously helped out the black community by spreading the macabre stories of urban black youth to audiences nation-wide. No other music group had ever done it before them, and no music group has ever done anything to a similar scale since. This is far superior to covert public 'race relations'. Who gives a **** if black people hate white people more since they came around-- that isn't the point here. The point is that people had NO idea what the **** was going on in the hood before NWA, and now comfortable complacent white folk needed to deal with their kids listening to tracks that righteously assaulted the institutions they supported.
 
You are so, so a 50 year old white dude.

I negged dal for this, and I apologize for that.

You are right dal. I am a white male in my mid-40's. I apologize for trying to bring up an important topic and for having an opinion on said topic. I will just bow out and let only you relevant people have opinions from now on. I know you do not want diversity, you want to silence people with differing opinions. You win.
 
This thread makes me laugh. NWA did maybe 2 or 3 songs that could be possibly interpreted as socially conscious. 95% of their music was about bitches, bling and being a gangster. That's the stuff that attracted the suburban white boys - the political overtones of "F....The Police" were incidental. Go on to You-Tube and listen to the first couple of solo records from Ice-Cube and Eazy E - it's some of the most misogynistic music ever created.

Real socially conscious rappers like KRS-One (who started producing music in the mid-80s when Dr. Dre was still going around wearing women's make-up on his face) never got to first base on the charts because, let's face it, that stuff is boring in large doses.
 
This thread makes me laugh. NWA did maybe 2 or 3 songs that could be possibly interpreted as socially conscious. 95% of their music was about bitches, bling and being a gangster. That's the stuff that attracted the suburban white boys - the political overtones of "F....The Police" were incidental. Go on to You-Tube and listen to the first couple of solo records from Ice-Cube and Eazy E - it's some of the most misogynistic music ever created.

Real socially conscious rappers like KRS-One (who started producing music in the mid-80s when Dr. Dre was still going around wearing women's make-up on his face) never got to first base on the charts because, let's face it, that stuff is boring in large doses.

dat east coast bias doe. Lemme guess, Big > Pac, Mobb Deep > OutKast, and Jay-Z is the best rapper of all time. :rolleyes:
 
dat east coast bias doe. Lemme guess, Big > Pac, Mobb Deep > OutKast, and Jay-Z is the best rapper of all time. :rolleyes:

Hahaa. I stopped listening to new rap artists over 20 years ago. Gotta go before that to show my EC bias Run DMC, Schooly D, Public Enemy, Beastie Boys. Haven't bought a rap record since The Wu Tang.
 
This thread makes me laugh. NWA did maybe 2 or 3 songs that could be possibly interpreted as socially conscious. 95% of their music was about bitches, bling and being a gangster. That's the stuff that attracted the suburban white boys - the political overtones of "F....The Police" were incidental. Go on to You-Tube and listen to the first couple of solo records from Ice-Cube and Eazy E - it's some of the most misogynistic music ever created.

Real socially conscious rappers like KRS-One (who started producing music in the mid-80s when Dr. Dre was still going around wearing women's make-up on his face) never got to first base on the charts because, let's face it, that stuff is boring in large doses.

This is spot on.
 
Eazy E was a piece of **** and was a horrible rapper. Westside Connection was wayyyyyyy better than NWA.
 
Eazy E was a piece of **** and was a horrible rapper. Westside Connection was wayyyyyyy better than NWA.
I disagree about easy being a horrible rapper.

Lol at your second statement.


Oh ya and pac > wallace
 
Are bone thugs in harmony the only rap group/rapper to do a track with all three of the deceased rappers Biggie Smalls, eazy e, and tupac?
 
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