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Pacers @ Jazz, 01/21, 7:00pm (1900) MT, Game #45

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lol at those discounting the most influential and ground breaking music genre to shape popular, and underground, music over the last 30 years. If you rip the lyricism and production, you don't understand music history (dating back to the turn of the century and the blues, to be be general) or have any musical vision looking forward. I could go on for pages.....

Hip hop, rap, and R&B have changed the face of art and music worldwide forever. This coming from a huge heavy rock music fan.

Go yell at kids of get off your lawn.

Holy ****.
 
jazzman12 said:
I'm not a very old guy, I grew up during the birth and rise of rap. That being said, I always chuckle when people defend rap. I'll stop short of calling it "not music" but I do find it extremely amusing how vigorously people will defend a genre of "music" which largely consists of sampling somebody else's work, and laying down X-Rated nursery rhymes on top of it.
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The thing is hip-hop is by far the most diverse and eclectic music genre of all time. If you think rap is just that, then you have only heard one section of what the genre is.
 
Saint Cy of JFC said:
The thing is hip-hop is by far the most diverse and eclectic music genre of all time. If you think rap is just that, then you have only heard one section of what the genre is.
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I've owned rap albums, and listened to a ton of rap. Some of it I even enjoyed. That being said, some people enjoyed listening to Disco. That doesn't automatically mean that it was complex music written by talented songwriters and musicians. Rap is the biggest movement in music over the last 30 years. I can't even begin to argue that. But again popularity doesn't automatically equal quality.

I'll just agree to disagree with you guys and keep listening to music that I feel is actually crafted art.
 
jazzman12 said:
I've owned rap albums, and listened to a ton of rap. Some of it I even enjoyed. That being said, some people enjoyed listening to Disco. That doesn't automatically mean that it was complex music written by talented songwriters and musicians. Rap is the biggest movement in music over the last 30 years. I can't even begin to argue that. But again popularity doesn't automatically equal quality.

I'll just agree to disagree with you guys and keep listening to music that I feel is actually crafted art.
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Not sure why you quoted me and brought up popularity and complexity as I didnt say anything about popularity or complexity.
 
fishonjazz said:
Love me some rap music and hip hop (pretty much same thing to me). My pandora station that im listening to the most currently is gym class heroes station. Lots of lupe fiasco, B.O.B., eminem, Lacrae (never heard of him until I started listening to this station), NF (him either), G-eazy.... Good stuff all around. Mostly hip hop stuff im guessing but i have mostly been a rap fan all my life (tupac, too short, dj quick, HI-C, method man, N.W.A, Jay-Z, spice 1, ghetto boys, even all the way back to KRS-1, epmd, eric b and rakim, rodney o and joe cooley, rbl posse, public enemy etc.)

How does one distinguish rap from hip hop anyway? Is it basically that rap music is more "hard" gansta **** and hip hop is more "clean", less gangsta urban? I have never known the difference and use the two interchangably.
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Rap is strictly the music-- spoken word/poetry song characteristically over a music signature.


Hip hop is the culture of which rap is a part of. Includes graffiting, breakdance, fashion activism etc
 
jazzman12 said:
I've owned rap albums, and listened to a ton of rap. Some of it I even enjoyed. That being said, some people enjoyed listening to Disco. That doesn't automatically mean that it was complex music written by talented songwriters and musicians. Rap is the biggest movement in music over the last 30 years. I can't even begin to argue that. But again popularity doesn't automatically equal quality.

I'll just agree to disagree with you guys and keep listening to music that I feel is actually crafted art.
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Straight up ppl who don't think rap is art are either dumb, racist, or both. Wtf?

You can say it's not your taste or that you don't resonate with it but in what world is it not talent-filled or art?
 
dalamon said:
Rap is strictly the music-- spoken word/poetry song characteristically over a music signature.


Hip hop is the culture of which rap is a part of. Includes graffiting, breakdance, fashion activism etc
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Good info. Makes sense.
 
dalamon said:
Straight up ppl who don't think rap is art are either dumb, racist, or both. Wtf?

You can say it's not your taste or that you don't resonate with it but in what world is it not talent-filled or art?
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So I either have a low IQ, or am a racist because I don't like the same type of "music" as you? And the "music" you're calling me a dumb racist over just happens to be the "music" that's main talking points are:

-Gettin' them $100 bills
-Purple Drank
-Constantly references women as "bitches"
-Constant use of the "N" word

Lol, and I'm the racist idiot?
 
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