The saddest part about this whole discussion is, I KNOW I'm being trolled, yet I just can't seem to let it go.
I am not trolling you. I made a statement, you said I was wrong, so I am just defending what I said.
The saddest part about this whole discussion is, I KNOW I'm being trolled, yet I just can't seem to let it go.
Incorrect, as I have stated, because our census laws and other laws implemented these prejudices.
We have laws (aka an administrative body) that say that someone with mixed black and white heritage is black.
It is your assumption that if the law (and other administrative bodies) was different, people would not think differently, but this is incorrect.
As further evidence, I will submit to you that there are South American countries in which people of mixed black and white heritage are thought of as white, because they do not have laws and other administrative bodies stating that they are black.
I'm not sure why I'm even dignifying your straw men, but what the hell...
You keep insisting that your "line" is administrative, yet the examples you cited are ALL about personal prejudice.
In general, yes they would, if the law was different, public behavior and thinking would have been impacted. Of course, the results would not be universal, but to say that things like laws, decrees, language, public relations, rules, administrations, and organizations over hundreds of years have no influence is incorrect.Consider the following scenario: A racist white employer interviews a light skinned, yet traditionally featured, african american man. As the "line" now stands, the employer would automatically dismiss the man as a candidate. Are you suggesting that if the government recognized the applicant as caucasian, rather than african american, the employers attitude and prejudices would automatically be different?
Also, I wonder how, if you started reclassifying, you would determine the cutoff.
If you were Stoked, you would have just explained your position in a reasonable fashion, rather than just countering anything I say with "That's your opinion".
This is the second time that a mod has taken my trademark annoyance with Stoked, the use of the "conjecture" argument , and used it against me in a very strange and ironic fashion.
I should have just said "this is your opinion", this is a huge waste of time, but it was so important for you to challenge me to go into more detail, and since you are a mod I did what you wanted. I have answered all of your questions.
That's okay. I didn't mean for the title post to be taken so seriously.
I agree with this.I'm not talking about prejudices that would exist if laws were different. I'm talking about the impact on prejudices if the law were suddenly changed. There's a big difference there. Prejudices don't adjust overnight because of some rule. They adjust over generations because of increased understanding.
It is your assumption that if the law (and other administrative bodies) was different, people would not think differently, but this is incorrect.