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[AlaskanAssassin]

So, you think you're qualified to tell other people what the problems in their life are, and how to better it? You think you have such a command of the truth, facts, and knowledge that you can apply it universally?

When did I suggest or imply either of these things? As with anyone, there are times when I am qualified, and other times when I'm not. However, if someone is qualified, they should feel morally compelled to help others with that information. This action is 100X more powerful than someone simply offering empathy, which typically only has short term benefits.

I'm not sure why you are trying to infer maliciousness from my comment.

 

[AlaskanAssassin]

You contradicted yourself in two consecutive sentences.

How is describing what someone else said in a podcast contradicting myself? Lol.

 

[Beer]

So, you think you're qualified to tell other people what the problems in their life are, and how to better it? You think you have such a command of the truth, facts, and knowledge that you can apply it universally?

Just because someone tells you something or feels a certain way doesn't mean you have to take it as fact. A lot, if not all, of these situations are ruled by emotion and that is a dangerous ruler.

 

[One Brow]

Just because someone tells you something or feels a certain way doesn't mean you have to take it as fact. A lot, if not all, of these situations are ruled by emotion and that is a dangerous ruler.

A reliance on pure statistics removes the importance of experience, which is also a dangerous place.

 

[One Brow]

How is describing what someone else said in a podcast contradicting myself? Lol.

By using "excellent", you went beyond description to endorsing the validity of that comparison, when it's really an awful comparison used solely for the emotional impact rather than revealing anything meaningful.

If you don't believe me, we can play a game. You list comparisons "to what is currently brewing in the USA to the beginnings of the Cultural Revolution in China", and for each one, I'll list both a contrast with the Cultural Revolution and a comparison to the US period of 1881-1890. Who do you think will run out of items to list first?

When did I suggest or imply either of these things? As with anyone, there are times when I am qualified, and other times when I'm not. However, if someone is qualified, they should feel morally compelled to help others with that information. This action is 100X more powerful than someone simply offering empathy, which typically only has short term benefits.

I'm not sure why you are trying to infer maliciousness from my comment.

Not maliciousness, just arrogance. Telling someone how to better themself is the ultimate in ego gratification, and very seldom of real use to the person you are sharing the information with; information that is usually trite and repetitive.

 

[AlaskanAssassin]

By using "excellent", you went beyond description to endorsing the validity of that comparison, when it's really an awful comparison used solely for the emotional impact rather than revealing anything meaningful.

Yeah, there was no contradiction in what I wrote. Sounds like you haven't listened to the podcast. Bret is a super progressive guy, and you are exemplifying exactly how the left tears itself apart.

Not maliciousness, just arrogance. Telling someone how to better themself is the ultimate in ego gratification, and very seldom of real use to the person you are sharing the information with; information that is usually trite and repetitive.

Wow, this is the most cynical thing I've read in years. I literally can't believe this is your worldview. Sounds to me like you haven't had very good mentors in your life. Lots of bad mentors and role models out there, but good ones impart knowledge and advice out of pure selflessness, with only love and kindness for the person or people they are trying to help.

 

[silesian]

So, responding to suffering with empathy is too hard for you?

Negative EQ

 

[silesian]

So we need to treat the BLM movement the same way we would treat a small child?

So that’s your takeaway from the analogy?
I’m going to give you the benefit of the doubt and call it willful ignorance since I don’t think you are that obtuse.

 

[Beer]

A reliance on pure statistics removes the importance of experience, which is also a dangerous place.

Agreed. But I do trust data far more than experience. For example, eyewitnesses to crime are extremely unreliable. Same with people interpreting others thoughts while relaying their experiences.

 

[One Brow]

Agreed. But I do trust data far more than experience. For example, eyewitnesses to crime are extremely unreliable. Same with people interpreting others thoughts while relaying their experiences.

Data is not some objective source of information. Data is collected, ultimately if not proximately, by people. What you are saying is you trust one type of experience over another.

 

[One Brow]

Yeah, there was no contradiction in what I wrote. Sounds like you haven't listened to the podcast. Bret is a super progressive guy, and you are exemplifying exactly how the left tears itself apart.

Conservatives often confuse libertarian positions with progressive positions. Quite frankly, every thing you describe of what he said (such as the evolutionary psychology nonsense) reeks of misunderstanding this difference.

Wow, this is the most cynical thing I've read in years. I literally can't believe this is your worldview. Sounds to me like you haven't had very good mentors in your life. Lots of bad mentors and role models out there, but good ones impart knowledge and advice out of pure selflessness, with only love and kindness for the person or people they are trying to help.

Advice is like horseradish. When it is appropriate, it can be the perfect enhancer. However, it's usefulness is limited, and you never give horseradish to someone who just wants mayonnaise or ketchup. Even when you do offer it, sometimes less is better.

When people really want advice, they'll ask for it. When they want empathy, giving advice is meeting your ego, not their needs.

 

[Beer]

Data is not some objective source of information. Data is collected, ultimately if not proximately, by people. What you are saying is you trust one type of experience over another.

Depends on the type of data, who is collecting it, and if they are trying to prove a point before collecting the data. Data in polling or surveys can obviously be very experiential and inaccurate. But data in my job for example is extremely accurate, has no emotion or bias, and just provides the facts of what is happening in a technical space.

The chances the data is telling a story more close to the truth is far more likely than someone telling their experience as it requires them to assign intent, thoughts, biases, etc .... to people they don't know.