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[Deleted member 848]

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Not really concerned with Burks playing PG on offense. He was initiating the offense for Utah when Hayward would sit. It's the defensive side that concerns me. Can Hood and Burks off the bench handle opposing guards? Neither are stellar defenders.

The Cavs performed fantastic defensive performances in the playoffs this year with JR Smith, Kyrie Irving and Iman "can't play off-ball D" Shumpert leading the charge on the guard-front.

 

[Game6Conley]

Ingles plays very competent D, and he canned 43% of his threes (1.3PG) post-ASB. I'm fine with him backing up Hayward for this season while we evaluate Burks and Hood at the 2 & Burke at the 1. Plus, unless we're signing 1-year contracts, we NEED to have that chunk of spare change to extend many of our players' contracts.

I have no issue with Ingles. Ingles and Baby Sap as the backup SF's just seems underwhelming. I don't want to believe they're going to go into FA and basically stand pat. there's due diligence to be done!

The player would be for a 1 year deal with some sort of option like Booker. thats best for the Jazz. A player like Weems is actually worth less in the NBA than on his Russian team so he's probably a decent candidate at 28 years old.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I0rg3JS-p7o

 

[Deleted member 848]

Lol. You sound a hair butt hurt. A butt hurt hair?

Perhaps. I'll adjust my tone accordingly.

Green checks off the D and shooting box and is mediocre elsewhere. Burks checks off the creating his own shot box and is mediocre elsewhere. Both Burks and Hayward are pretty solid up and down the list but would be more dangerous next to a better shooter, imo.

Hayward and Burks will both be dangerous playing next to Hood, who has shown to be a MUCH more versatile scorer in his ROOKIE YEAR than Danny Green in the prime of his NBA career.

Please list. We have no one on our roster in the same category of shooter as Green. Hood is the closest but he still isn't the threat Green is.

Lmao. Same category of shooter? How did this prolific shooter completely lay goose-eggs in the playoffs against the Clippers then? Are we really willing to judge Hood as always being worse after only like half a season's worth of NBA games?

Not going to pass on a guy in the hopes that one of these 3 blow up. That seems incredibly stupid to me.

Getting all excited about a prolific shooter who averaged 34% from the field in the 2015 playoffs seems incredibly stupid to me.

It could be. Thing is I'm not sure Burks is the best fit next to our other wings and PG's. Maybe we hit gold(silver would do just fine) with Burks as a combo guard maybe not. Either way I'm not sweating about moving Burke to give it a shot.

Moving Burke makes more sense if Hanlan or Cotton make him expendable.

 

[Stoked]

But both were one-dimensional. Neither could shoot. DMC is a two-way player. He plays tremendous defense and he's a threat to score on the other end. Utah has always had players who were limited on one end (Boozer, AK, Memo, Big Al, etc.). And the team failed to contend because of it. If we can get a complete player, DO IT!

Yes, players might get a bit grumpy sometimes when they only play 20 minutes instead of 30. But there are always injuries throughout the season, so the averages will be a bit higher. And if Utah is winning 55+ games? That would certainly cure a lot of those problems.

And the post I replied to was talking about permiter D. Only one aspect of the game. Never said or indicated they did anythinelse well or poorly.

 

[♪alt13]

Perhaps. I'll adjust my tone accordingly.



Hayward and Burks will both be dangerous playing next to Hood, who has shown to be a MUCH more versatile scorer in his ROOKIE YEAR than Danny Green in the prime of his NBA career.




Lmao. Same category of shooter? How did this prolific shooter completely lay goose-eggs in the playoffs against the Clippers then? Are we really willing to judge Hood as always being worse after only like half a season's worth of NBA games?





Getting all excited about a prolific shooter who averaged 34% from the field in the 2015 playoffs seems incredibly stupid to me.



Moving Burke makes more sense if Hanlan or Cotton make him expendable.

First there is still plenty of time for Hood. Imagine Hood and another shooter. Srsly try to be a little sophisticated.

Second judging Green as a shooter based off of one playoff series is stupid. Dude has shot over 40% for the last 3 years. Sample size

Third just messin with ya about the 'Butt hurt hair' thing. (I think it just became my phrase of the week)

 

[Stoked]

Perhaps. I'll adjust my tone accordingly.



Hayward and Burks will both be dangerous playing next to Hood, who has shown to be a MUCH more versatile scorer in his ROOKIE YEAR than Danny Green in the prime of his NBA career.




Lmao. Same category of shooter? How did this prolific shooter completely lay goose-eggs in the playoffs against the Clippers then? Are we really willing to judge Hood as always being worse after only like half a season's worth of NBA games?





Getting all excited about a prolific shooter who averaged 34% from the field in the 2015 playoffs seems incredibly stupid to me.



Moving Burke makes more sense if Hanlan or Cotton make him expendable.

If Cotton plays like he did to finish the season then Burke is expendable.

 

[Stoked]

First there is still plenty of time for Hood. Imagine Hood and another shooter. Srsly try to be a little sophisticated.

Second judging Green as a shooter based off of one playoff series is stupid. Dude has shot over 40% for the last 3 years. Sample size

Hayward, Burks and I think Exum will progress well in that front. Plus Ingles was around 40% for a whole at the end of the season from 3.

Another shooter is always good but Jazz already have more than 2.

 

[Stifle Tower]

And the post I replied to was talking about permiter D. Only one aspect of the game. Never said or indicated they did anythinelse well or poorly.

Right, but both ends of the court need to be considered. Yes, we got good perimeter D, but our offense sucked. We need complete players to be a contender. The only exception might be Gobert because he is so amazing on the defensive end. And he's tall enough to average 12 pts/per just off rebounds and drop-offs.

 

[Deleted member 848]

Rodney Hood GP MIN FGM-FGA FG% 3PM-3PA 3P% FTM-FTA FT% OR DR REB AST BLK STL PF TO PTS

Post All-Star 26 24.1 4.4-9.5 .464 1.6-3.8 .420 1.3-1.7 .814 0.2 2.0 2.2 2.1 0.2 0.8 2.4 1.0 11.8



This ****ing guy averaged this in his rookie season while closing out games as primary ball-handler, and we want to reward this by giving him a ****ing bench role in order to address our essentially non-existent defensive problems after Kanter left?

Baffling. If Cleveland can shut down teams with JR and Kyrie getting intense burn, I think we'll be fine with Hood playing okay D at the 2.

 

[Jazz4ever]

Rodney Hood GP MIN FGM-FGA FG% 3PM-3PA 3P% FTM-FTA FT% OR DR REB AST BLK STL PF TO PTS

Post All-Star 26 24.1 4.4-9.5 .464 1.6-3.8 .420 1.3-1.7 .814 0.2 2.0 2.2 2.1 0.2 0.8 2.4 1.0 11.8



This ****ing guy averaged this in his rookie season while closing out games as primary ball-handler, and we want to reward this by giving him a ****ing bench role in order to address our essentially non-existent defensive problems after Kanter left?

Baffling. If Cleveland can shut down teams with JR and Kyrie getting intense burn, I think we'll be fine with Hood playing okay D at the 2.

By this measure then Exum is headed toward bustville because his stats were worse after the all star break. That's the problem with cherry picking.

 

[Deleted member 848]

First there is still plenty of time for Hood. Imagine Hood and another shooter. Srsly try to be a little sophisticated.

Ya if 70% of Alec's minutes are at the 1, which is incredibly UN-sophisticated, unrealistic, stupid, and a waste of the contract the Jazz gave him.

Second judging Green as a shooter based off of one playoff series is stupid. Dude has shot over 40% for the last 3 years. Sample size

No, it's very indicative of how non-versatile his offense is, in a team that has capable defenders down low, and the back-court is encouraged to press up on three-point shooters. Our current Jazz team has no one on the level of a 1-2 offensive punch comparable to Tony Parker and Tim Duncan of Danny Green's prime. For the umpteenth time, our defense was incredible last season-- our offense is in need of much more work. Defense wins championships, of course-- but teams with a lack of offensive versatility get swiftly eliminated as well. This year's playoffs are 100% the proof of this statement. Trying to make us go from 5th best to 2nd best in NBA defense is much less important than going from 25th to 10th best in offense.


We had the 5th worst offense in the league last season, and now we wanna swap Rodney Hood for Danny Green!?

Third just messin with ya about the 'Butt hurt hair' thing. (I think it just became my phrase of the week)

Lol.

 

[fishonjazz]

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Not really concerned with Burks playing PG on offense. He was initiating the offense for Utah when Hayward would sit. It's the defensive side that concerns me. Can Hood and Burks off the bench handle opposing guards? Neither are stellar defenders.

Burks is better defensively against pg's than sg's imo