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From listening to DL on 1280, sure sounds like the org is intent on bringing Pleiss into the fold now. It sounds like the ship has sailed on Tomic (he'll be 31 when his contact with Barcelona ends) and the Jazz have moved on to younger prospects.
 
I want Tibor to teach Gobert that hook shot. If Gobert could hit that hook shot that Pliess hits with regularity he would be unstoppable. The more I read about and watch Pliess the more excited I am about bringing him on. With him could we go true big-ball, with Exum, Hayward, Favors, Pleiss and Gobert? Or Hayward, Hood, Favors, Pleiss, Gobert? Would be crazy to see that a few minutes a game even.
 
LogGrad98 said:
I want Tibor to teach Gobert that hook shot. If Gobert could hit that hook shot that Pliess hits with regularity he would be unstoppable. The more I read about and watch Pliess the more excited I am about bringing him on. With him could we go true big-ball, with Exum, Hayward, Favors, Pleiss and Gobert? Or Hayward, Hood, Favors, Pleiss, Gobert? Would be crazy to see that a few minutes a game even.
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That last line up would be
7'2 - C
7'1 - PF
6'10 - SF
6'8 - SG
6'8 - PG

HUGE line up. But some worries on Favors ability to stick with opposing SFs...
 
Stoked said:
That last line up would be
7'2 - C
7'1 - PF
6'10 - SF
6'8 - SG
6'8 - PG

HUGE line up. But some worries on Favors ability to stick with opposing SFs...
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I wouldn't worry, shut down the 3 with huge wing defenders and shut down everything at the rim and then how can they do anything? Gobert + Pleiss would be a negative shooting percentage at the rim for opposing teams damn near.

But that would be a ton of fun to watch.
 
Ellis269 said:
System under Corbin (where Burks was a primary ball handler) vs. system under Snyder (where the wings initiate the offense frequently). I know some disagree, but I think Burks would be brilliant in Trey Burke's role from last year.

Give me a starting lineup of Gobert, Favors, Hayward, Carroll and Exum. Bring Booker, Lyles, Hood, Jingles and Burks off the bench. Move Trey for an asset, or have him compete with Cotton/Hanlan for minutes as the 3rd PG. Roll with it for a season and then re-assess where and how to use everyone for next year.

The versatility of that group is fantastic. Add spot minutes for Pleiss, Millsap, Cotton, etc. Continue focusing on player development through the season, and lock down your top 9 players for the playoffs.
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NAOS said:
Been saying the exact same thing. Literally. Don't expect Dalaburke to hear it.
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♪alt13 said:
It seems to be you, Ellis, and myself. The rest of the board seems to prefer sticking with 'Trade Bait' as backup pg.
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fishonjazz said:
Wait, are you saying that the rest of the board do not want to trade trey? I'm going to have to say you are way off on that one
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LogGrad98 said:
This.
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Stoked said:
Yup, I want to trade him as well. Especially if the Jazz go into training camp with Exum, Cotton, Hanlan and Neto.
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What Ellis, Hey Hey, and myself have been saying is that a great slice of Burke's minutes should go to Alec. This frees up minutes for another wing. I know Ellis and myself have been lobbying for Carroll. Not sure about how Hey Hey feels about that part.

And, Yes, it does seem like this is a rare opinion. I think Numberica might feel the same. Not sure.
 
NAOS said:
What Ellis, Hey Hey, and myself have been saying is that a great slice of Burke's minutes should go to Alec. This frees up minutes for another wing. I know Ellis and myself have been lobbying for Carroll. Not sure about how Hey Hey feels about that part.

And, Yes, it does seem like this is a rare opinion. I think Numberica might feel the same. Not sure.
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I'd consider some minutes to Burks as a back up PG. But I want to see what the Jazz do with the PG position this offseason. Looks like they might go into training camp with 5 PGs. If 2-3 of them light it up that will drastically reduce Burks chances to play PG. If Exum is good and the rest suck it is much more likely to happen.

I would be OK with Carroll coming over, but if he did than that is the end of Millsap or Ingles.

Have the 1-3 look like this maybe?

Carroll/Hood/Ingles
Hayward/Burks/Exum
Exum/Hanlan/Burks

or

Carroll/Hood
Hayward/Burks/Millsap
Exum/Burks/Hanlan

Those line up don't even take into consideration Cotton, Neto or Burke.

I am not fully jumping on board yet but it should be looked at by Snyder.
 
NAOS said:
We had a top-ranked defense (based on opponents' ppg) largely because of our pace.
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opp ppg was largely impacted by our pace, I agree. However, post all-star, we also were 2nd in opponent fg%, 5th in opponent 3pt%, and ranked 6th in paint%, 5th from 5-9ft %, 6th from 15-19ft %, 3rd from 20-24ft %, and 1st from 25+ feet. I don't think the perimeter d is as weak as you think.
 
jope said:
opp ppg was largely impacted by our pace, I agree. However, post all-star, we also were 2nd in opponent fg%, 5th in opponent 3pt%, and ranked 6th in paint%, 5th from 5-9ft %, 6th from 15-19ft %, 3rd from 20-24ft %, and 1st from 25+ feet. I don't think the perimeter d is as weak as you think.
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It wasn't, Millsap and Exum hounded their guys constantly. Then you had OK defenders in Hayward and Hood.
 
Here's a quick sketch of how the minutes might be distributed, on average.

Exum (25) / Burks (20)
Carroll (30) / Burks (10) / Hood (8)
Hayward (30) / Hood (18)
Favors (25) / Booker (20) / Lyles (3, and increasing)
Gobert (32) / Favors (7) / Pleiss (9)
 
NAOS said:
Here's a quick sketch of how the minutes might be distributed, on average.

Exum (25) / Burks (20)
Carroll (30) / Burks (10) / Hood (8)
Hayward (30) / Hood (18)
Favors (25) / Booker (20) / Lyles (3, and increasing)
Gobert (32) / Favors (7) / Pleiss (9)
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I'd give Pliess more time at C and Booker less at PF. Give Bookers lost PF minutes to Favors and Lyle. But you did say "and increasing" for Lyles so you already compensate for that to some degree.

Booker will be here but as the season goes on he should get more and more of a back seat.
 
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