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Police arrest Julian Assange at Ecuadorian embassy in London
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You know that how?
Sure. But that doesn't make the rape charges trumped up.
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You are literally repeating what right wing trolls like Cassandra Fairbanks and Russian bots are retweeting right now. I know you think you’re smart by going “against the mainstream.” Maybe you feel like you’re “preserving western culture” from the brown horde. But please understand that the filth of the alt right and the authoritarianism of Russia is the antithesis of western culture and representative democracy.
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I have strong feelings about Assange.
His organization merely acts as the arm for Russian authoritarianism. They claim to be pro “free speech” and pro “freedom for individual rights” and pro “truth” yet their actions completely undermine western democracies.
Ask yourself, how many times did Assange and his organization release embarrassing information about a Western European or North American country? Almost too many to count. And many of these leaks were about embarrassing but not very significant things. It’s not like he saved millions of people from dying in Vietnam, like Ellsberg did. All his leaks accomplished successfully was to undermine trust and confidence in western democracies.
Now ask yourself, how many times did Assange and his organization release embarrassing information about Russia? Think about it. Have they ever released information on Russia? Why is that?
If the goal was to encourage countries to be more transparent, honest, and work collectively to preserve human life, why wouldn’t he go after the worst offenders, like Russia?
Putin and Russia have recognized that that they can weaponize the west’s tolerance for the free press against itself. They’re actively using Assange (he’s a willing partner) and Wikileaks to undermine confidence in western democracy. The goal is two fold:
1. Drive a wedge between western democratic governments and the people they govern so governing becomes impossible. While Americans are arguing amongst themselves over facts and alt facts, they can’t rally together to counter Russian aggression.
2. Crash western democracies. If western governments become so disrupted by groups like Wikileaks, they may clamp down on freedoms and become increasingly more authoritarian. America (and other western democracies) becoming more like Russia is a huge win for the bad guys.
Assange and Wikileaks are the bad guys being exploited by the worst bad guy alive today, Vladimir Putin.
His organization merely acts as the arm for Russian authoritarianism. They claim to be pro “free speech” and pro “freedom for individual rights” and pro “truth” yet their actions completely undermine western democracies.
Ask yourself, how many times did Assange and his organization release embarrassing information about a Western European or North American country? Almost too many to count. And many of these leaks were about embarrassing but not very significant things. It’s not like he saved millions of people from dying in Vietnam, like Ellsberg did. All his leaks accomplished successfully was to undermine trust and confidence in western democracies.
Now ask yourself, how many times did Assange and his organization release embarrassing information about Russia? Think about it. Have they ever released information on Russia? Why is that?
If the goal was to encourage countries to be more transparent, honest, and work collectively to preserve human life, why wouldn’t he go after the worst offenders, like Russia?
Putin and Russia have recognized that that they can weaponize the west’s tolerance for the free press against itself. They’re actively using Assange (he’s a willing partner) and Wikileaks to undermine confidence in western democracy. The goal is two fold:
1. Drive a wedge between western democratic governments and the people they govern so governing becomes impossible. While Americans are arguing amongst themselves over facts and alt facts, they can’t rally together to counter Russian aggression.
2. Crash western democracies. If western governments become so disrupted by groups like Wikileaks, they may clamp down on freedoms and become increasingly more authoritarian. America (and other western democracies) becoming more like Russia is a huge win for the bad guys.
Assange and Wikileaks are the bad guys being exploited by the worst bad guy alive today, Vladimir Putin.
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I have no idea why she stayed in the 2016 election...
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That's b.s., Thriller. Our government is probably more corrupt than the Russians, for one. Wikileaks is not an arm of the Russians; the Russians may have aided him and people like Snowden, but that's for propaganda purposes. And Russian power has always been overrated to suit the needs of our military and its continual need for expansion and financial support. Once the USSR collapsed we created the bogeyman of terrorism. Assange is portrayed as a bad guy by the real bad guys, the U.S. government and our military-industrial complex.
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Now, I'm not saying that Russia is the good guys either, so be clear about that. But if you consider what nation has caused more death and destruction since the end of WW II, I think we win hands down. Either directly through war, or indirectly by supplying arms through the auspices of the CIA to various dictators in third world countries like those in Africa and in Indonesia or Guatemala (and there were genocides committed in the latter two countries with the aid of the U.S.), among others. For example, three million Vietnamese died during the war there, and one source I know of indicated that in modern warfare far more civilians are dying. For example, in the Iraq War, 90 percent of those who died, or collateral damage as they call it, were civilians. It's a nasty world we live in today, but I don't believe Assange is part of that. Just because the Russians aid someone, doesn't mean they're the bad. Castro, for instance, was trying to improve the lives of the people in Cuba, but we boycotted Cuba and tried to overthrow him because we don't believe in socialism. So, the Russians came to his aid. Of course we portray Castro as evil. But if we had not boycotted Cuba, like we are doing to Venezuela, they would've been prosperous. But we couldn't allow that because of our dirty capitalist system. Americans aren't bad people, nor are Russians bad people. It's our governments that are evil, and we are the most evil of them all. We are the evil empire.
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No government on the planet is more corrupt than Putin’s Russia.
Russia isn't some boogeyman. Read a damn book or open a newspaper. Russia is meddling in elections, killing journalists, and providing aid to our enemies. Enemies of western democracies. This isn’t rumor, but proven fact.
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So both, the American and Russian governments are evil? Ok... I don’t agree with that. But even if I did, how does it make sense that Assange and wiki have only gone after one of those two governments?
Annnnndddd that’s the point. Assange has gone after Germany, France, the United States, and even Canada more than Russia.
Is Canada’s Government really more evil than Russia’s?
If the goal in exposing a country’s “evil dark secrets” is to encourage them to be more transparent and clean up their act, why hasn’t Assange gone after Russia in the same vigor as western democracies?
Or is Canada really just Much more “evil” than Russia?
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When I was in high school, many decades ago, American history was my favorite subject. And we were taught we were the good guys who wore the white hats. It was not easy coming to terms with the fact that this was simply not always the case. But I would dispute that we are "the most evil of them all". In addition to Russia, where power is an alliance of Putin, the intelligence services, the top oligarchs, and the Russian mob, for which reason the nation state of Russian has been described as a "mafia state", we may not wish to forget China where "evil" is concerned:
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2...you-never-come-out-inside-chinas-war-on-islam
I am not living in a nation where, if my ethnicity is not Chinese, and I am a Muslim, if the police find Facebook on my smart phone, I can expect 15 years in a concentration camp.
Killing journalists with radioactive poison..., Killing journalists as well as people who spied on them in foreign nations like the UK, with radioactive poison.
Research how Putin got his first high profile job under Boris Yeltsin. He blew up Russians in their apartment buildings and blamed it on terrorists. Then he started a war with the terrorists and became a national hero.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_apartment_bombings
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Nailed it.
Like others have said, Wikileaks, without that discretion, is open to being weaponized by the DRB.
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