Political ideology thread

[b_line]

Nailed it 100%. Especially that last paragraph. Lots of kids just go to college cause they just figure that is what they are supposed to do after high school. They often don't have a plan or any direction.
For many, college is a very expensive waste of time that sets a person back many years.
It shouldn't.

Lol. I saw an onion article that was headlined something like "most fiscally responsible choice made by teenager was failing to get into ivy league college."

 

[Jamezz]

Please explain your reasoning in this. If we eliminated this tax, where would the money for roads and infrastructure come from?

If you are not proposing any increases in other taxes like sales tax, luxury tax, property tax, etc, how do you propose to pay for essential government programs like law enforcement?

Four main reasons:

1) You can't tell me the roads are in good shape as they sit now. The government obviously isn't investing enough in this area.

2) The two mentioned taxes are the ones that effect the person most directly. The income tax takes money directly from our salary (most of us use a lot of energy, mental and/or physical to earn this money) and the corporate tax keeps the employers from being able to pay higher salaries to their employees.

3) Cut spending in other areas (especially in the military) and you won't need any increase in the taxes that you mentioned whatsoever. The amount of money spent overseas is absurd and would make up for most of our domestic issues.

4) As people would have more money in their pockets they could also spend more. Businesses would have more income and therefore could grow, hiring more personnel. A win-win situation.


Things are more simple than what the government likes to make us think.

 

[b_line]

Four main reasons:

1) You can't tell me the roads are in good shape as they sit now. The government obviously isn't investing enough in this area.

2) The two mentioned taxes are the ones that effect the person most directly. The income tax takes money directly from our salary (most of us use a lot of energy, mental and/or physical to earn this money) and the corporate tax keeps the employers from being able to pay higher salaries to their employees.

3) Cut spending in other areas (especially in the military) and you won't need any increase in the taxes that you mentioned whatsoever. The amount of money spent overseas is absurd and would make up for most of our domestic issues.

4) As people would have more money in their pockets they could also spend more. Businesses would have more income and therefore could grow, hiring more personnel. A win-win situation.


Things are more simple than what the government likes to make us think.

You advocate cutting 92% of federal income, yet only propose small cuts in military spending?

While the roads may not be that great, cutting money that would make roads better flies in the face of your logic that roads would suddenly be better if the government lost 92% of its income.

There are basic things that have to be paid for. If you propose cutting taxes, you need to have supporting budget cuts or supporting increase in other revenue. The roads are not going to be run by a charity. The country could fall into mayhem, with toll roads dominating the landscape, and travel becoming infinitely more difficult. And that is only one portion of what our taxes support.

 

[Jamezz]

Also abolish the Federal Reserve and have the US government be the entity that prints the money. Don't pay back the debt since it's been illegally acquired by private international banking entities. If they want their money back they can try by force. Russia would be on our side so good luck with that. Of course nobody's gonna have the "cojones" to pull all this off but it has been this way prior to 1914 when the Federal Reserve Act was implemented. It's not too distant in time...

 

[RandyForRubio]

I do remember seeing some posts from you on that. I think it can even be taken a step further to change the way our engineers are trained. I really don't think it benefits future engineers to have to take courses in humanities, etc. In the past, it was probably pretty beneficial to see how other people think in this world, but we have so many media outlets these days, that people are exposed to so many different trains of thought.

I don't know if I would agree with that. I think they're still useful, to a certain degree. People still need to know how to communicate with people. I actually think the Internet, texting, etc has harmed our ability to communicate in immense ways. We can't be making it worse than it is now, IMO.

 

[Jamezz]

You advocate cutting 92% of federal income, yet only propose small cuts in military spending?

While the roads may not be that great, cutting money that would make roads better flies in the face of your logic that roads would suddenly be better if the government lost 92% of its income.

There are basic things that have to be paid for. If you propose cutting taxes, you need to have supporting budget cuts or supporting increase in other revenue. The roads are not going to be run by a charity. The country could fall into mayhem, with toll roads dominating the landscape, and travel becoming infinitely more difficult. And that is only one portion of what our taxes support.

What good does having all this income fill the government's pockets if the spending is way higher. Small cuts in military spending? Just bringing the boys back home and not going to fight wars to serve other countries purposes would cut military spending by close to that 92% number that you dropped on the table. What the top bankers have done to this country is a travesty, it's criminal and it's a treasonous act that must be stopped at once.

 

[b_line]

I don't know if I would agree with that. I think they're still useful, to a certain degree. People still need to know how to communicate with people. I actually think the Internet, texting, etc has harmed our ability to communicate in immense ways. We can't be making it worse than it is now, IMO.

Yeah, I can see that. After I made that post, I started thinking about some of the courses that I thought were a waste of time in my college career, and I can see the value of some of them now.

I think the college system can be improved, and at the same time make it more cost efficient.

 

[b_line]

What good does having all this income fill the government's pockets if the spending is way higher. Small cuts in military spending? Just bringing the boys back home and not going to fight wars to serve other countries purposes would cut military spending by close to that 92% number that you dropped on the table.

Let me explain a little further, military spending accounts for about 13% of the total money spent by our government. Let's say we just go crazy and cut military spending by 100%. That means the federal government needs 13% less revenue to function. Cutting 92% of our budget by getting rid of the taxes you proposed abolishing still leaves us short by about $3.3 trillion per year.

 

[Jamezz]

Let me explain a little further, military spending accounts for about 13% of the total money spent by our government. Let's say we just go crazy and cut military spending by 100%. That means the federal government needs 13% less revenue to function. Cutting 92% of our budget by getting rid of the taxes you proposed abolishing still leaves us short by about $3.3 trillion per year.

I find the 13% number that you came up with hard to believe but enlighten me with how the remaining 87% of the money is spent. You also missed the part about the money that the US government perpetually owes to the Federal Reserve.

I'm curious, what is in your view the purpose of the Federal Reserve and where is the gold that our money is supposed to be backed up with? Where is the gold tell me, who's hands is it in?

 

[♪alt13]

I find the 13% number that you came up with hard to believe but enlighten me with how the remaining 87% of the money is spent. You also missed the part about the money that the US government perpetually owes to the Federal Reserve.

I'm curious, what is in your view the purpose of the Federal Reserve and where is the gold that our money is supposed to be backed up with? Where is the gold tell me, who's hands is it in?

 

[RandyForRubio]

Yeah, I can see that. After I made that post, I started thinking about some of the courses that I thought were a waste of time in my college career, and I can see the value of some of them now.

I think the college system can be improved, and at the same time make it more cost efficient.

Hard to improve college without our HS education improving. I remember in college being shocked at how poorly most students read and comprehended the curriculum. And I'm not exactly a very scholastic person lol.

 

[b_line]

I find the 13% number that you came up with hard to believe but enlighten me with how the remaining 87% of the money is spent. You also missed the part about the money that the US government perpetually owes to the Federal Reserve.

I'm curious, what is in your view the purpose of the Federal Reserve and where is the gold that our money is supposed to be backed up with? Where is the gold tell me, who's hands is it in?

Military spending for 2015 was 598.5 billion. Total budget was over 3.8 trillion. I was a tiny bit low at 13% but not far off.

I'm not engaging in conspiracy theory discussions about the federal reserve or Jews in this thread.