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Poll: Should the Jazz Match Hayward's $15.75 a year/4 year Contract?

Should They Match?

  • Total voters
    181
  • Poll closed .
On a team where he is literally the only viable creator, we have a guy averaging 19/5/4 with good shooting percentages, and he's not doing enough.

We currently have less talent on our roster than we did last year, and Hayward is putting up bigger and better numbers, and people are still bitching. Damn. Some of y'all are either ignorant or just plain stupid.
 
GVC said:
It's hard to say at this point. Just yesterday the Celts picked up a 1st round pick and young (potential) rotation big for absorbing an expiring contract. The Jazz picked up two 1st round picks last year for absorbing expiring contracts. The Rockets, Cavs and Warriors are still trying to work out deals that may require a third team to take on salary. That list may grow.

FWIW, the pro-Hayward front hasn't been offering much intelligent analysis either. Vague statements about "market price" and there being nothing immediately available, at least as far as the average fan knows, for cap space don't really add much to the conversation.
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Pro-Hayward camp popping bottles tbh.
 
PointGod_AlecBurks said:
Trevor Ariza has won a championship, hes had injuries that coincided with his down years, you forget key points like that in your all seeing analysis.

Everyone talks of 3 and D players around here, but clearly the overall sentiment is yall prefer Hayward.

You are flat out wrong about Brook Lopez, if hes healthy and normal he will EASILY get the max, at this point in his career, hes bigger and stronger than most every C, Lopez is like Prime Yao on offense. He punked the Jazz bigmen so bad last year, he barely needed to play in the 2nd half.

Lopez is my preferred Bigman in the 2015 class but IIRC theres a bunch of them, LaMarcus Aldridge, DeAndre Jordan, Marc Gasol, Kevin Love, Asik, enough where if the Jazz had 30 mil in space they could throw out a bunch of offers to worthy players.

Theres a ton of mid-level guys that are interesting; Wesley Matthews, Marco Bellineli, Danny Green, Thaddeus Young

Tobias Harris and Reggie Jackson are restricted. Faried too.

Goran Dragic will opt out, Gerald Green will be on the market, if he has another efficient year, I'd sign him to a decent sized deal no problems.

Maybe even a Gerald Henderson, or Gary Neal. Demarre Carrol, Paul Millsap and Rajon Rondo will be unrestricted aswell.

I can find 100's of scenarios that i prefer over giving Hayward 63 mil, tbh, some of it might take 1 year of patience, but the Tank would strengthen as a result too.
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That let Hayward walk so we can sign Gerald Henderson strategy doe.
 
This poll reasonably represents that Hayward got is 'max' money for his worth. A 58/42 result indicates that this is about what the market will bear for his services. (Granted, the population of the poll are not NBA GMs, but darn close to it in knowledge, experience, and opinion...)

I was right about Gordon in wanting him matched, but good thing we don't have a thread predicting performance of Gobert, Trey or Kanter for me...
 
Everyone who said Hayward wasn't worth the max was sorta right at the time. He didn't look like a max guy. He does now. He's really good this year. Maybe it's growth, maybe it's the system, it's probably a little of both.

I'm glad we did match. Hayward is a stud. Especially since he's a two way player.

I would also call him a scorer. Before I would cringe when he would shoot or drive to the basket. Now I dont. I've always loved his defense though.
 
Harcher said:
This poll reasonably represents that Hayward got is 'max' money for his worth. A 58/42 result indicates that this is about what the market will bear for his services. (Granted, the population of the poll are not NBA GMs, but darn close to it in knowledge, experience, and opinion...)

I was right about Gordon in wanting him matched, but good thing we don't have a thread predicting performance of Gobert, Trey or Kanter for me...
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To be fair, if one makes enough predictions on players development, sooner or later they are going to look foolish in some of their predictions or projections. Noone can have 100% success with that stuff... especially on an internet forum. If we were that good at predicting player success we wouldn't be Jazz forum dwellers, we'd all be employed with NBA teams' FOs.
 
Hack said:
Everyone who said Hayward wasn't worth the max was sorta right at the time. He didn't look like a max guy. He does now. He's really good this year. Maybe it's growth, maybe it's the system, it's probably a little of both.

I'm glad we did match. Hayward is a stud. Especially since he's a two way player.

I would also call him a scorer. Before I would cringe when he would shoot or drive to the basket. Now I dont. I've always loved his defense though.
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All this.

I talked earlier about being worried that we overpay him in his next contract.

His current contract is the reason I worry about it.

Hayward had a season last year that was not worthy of his current contract. Based off of last season's play, the contract that Hayward was offered was an overpay. I'm glad that he is living up to that deal but he did not earn his current contract on the court last year in my opinion.

The same thing could happen again in a couple of years (he gets offered a contact that he hadn't yet earned) and maybe next time he doesn't have a huge leap in performance like he did from last year to this year.
 
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