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Um, NBA players are better paid on average than players in pretty much any other major team sport, even at 50/50 or even 47/53 (with 47 being for the players).

And, um, that average salary (including the salary lost with each passing day and week and month and season) matters more than percent share, especially in sports where the players get paid more anyway. #OpportunityCost

I guess that the players' whiny comeback could be that height is a rarer commodity than ice skating (or checking), but the NBA has shown that better basketball is probably played without maxing out the height average anyway.

Because the NBA requires the least amount of players on a roster than any other major sport.
 
Because the NBA requires the least amount of players on a roster than any other major sport.
Further support for my conclusion (thanks). No matter how you get there, the point remains: the NBA players are the highest-paid in professional team sports, and they still want more (or want to give up less), even though the world's changed, and even though they are worse off in the end (by way of lost salary during the lockout).

Even at 47% or 50% share, each player (on average at least) gets a bigger piece of the pie.
 
Further support for my conclusion.

Even at 47% or 50% share, each player (on average at least) gets a bigger piece of the pie.

Yes, because they are apart of a more elite club. It's harder to become (odd wise at least) a NBA player than an NFL,NHL, or MLB player. So they should be paid more.
 
Yes, because they are apart of a more elite club. It's harder to become (odd wise at least) a NBA player than an NFL,NHL, or MLB player. So they should be paid more.
Not sure why you're being an apologist for the players, but the supply of NBA-quality players exceeds demand, so the fewer spots in the NBA does not warrant the substantially higher average salary that they are receiving. Even at 50-50. #TakeTheMoneyAndRun

Feel free to put some numbers to your claim, btw. I'm not sure that you're gonna find the NBA much more elite than the NFL or MLB. Most schools that have a basketball team also have a football team, and it is possible that more people play basketball than football.
 
Not sure why you're being an apologist for the players, but the supply of NBA-quality players exceeds demand, so the fewer spots in the NBA does not warrant the substantially higher average salary that they are receiving.

Exceeds demand? NBA players have to work harder to become a professional in their field and have less chance of becoming one than any other sport. Every year in Football and Baseball there are tons of new players coming into the league.
 
Not sure why you're being an apologist for the players, but the supply of NBA-quality players exceeds demand, so the fewer spots in the NBA does not warrant the substantially higher average salary that they are receiving. Even at 50-50. #TakeTheMoneyAndRun

Feel free to put some numbers to your claim, btw. I'm not sure that you're gonna find the NBA much more elite than the NFL or MLB. Most schools that have a basketball team also have a football team, and it is possible that more people play basketball than football.

There are less NBA players in the world than MLB or NFL. That means your odds of becoming an NBA player are significantly less than any other sport. That is what makes NBA players are more elite group.

Also, numbers are not needed when common sense is involved.
 
And in real life that is a major factor in dictating pay. Someone with an Engineering degree is going to get paid more than someone with a Psychology degree because the Engineering degree is a more exclusive,difficult to obtain degree.
 
Exceeds demand? NBA players have to work harder to become a professional in their field and have less chance of becoming one than any other sport. Every year in Football and Baseball there are tons of new players coming into the league.
Really? Feel free to back up your claim that NBA players have to work harder than NBA players to become skilled in your sport. In my limited experience, I didn't see that basketball players practiced harder than football players; if anything, it was the opposite. And the fact that the average college years per NFL player (and average years in the minor leagues or college for the MLB) being far higher than the average college years per NBA player flies in the face of your claim that NBA players work harder to get into the NBA.

You're ignoring supply vs. demand; just because there are fewer spots in the NBA doesn't mean that there aren't enough players to fill those spots--or that players should earn more for getting there unless there is a scarcity of NBA-quality players relative to positions available.

While some would argue that sometimes erratic quality of the NBA games might suggest that there is a scarcity of NBA-quality players, it can be argued the erratic quality of the NBA has to do more with players not being as trained (perhaps "working hard enough" in your terms) before the NBA (i.e., minimum of one year of college) than in other sports (e.g., NFL typically has players with at least 2 or 3 years' college experience, and MLB players typically do college or the minor leagues).

In other words, the prior experience to get in the NBA is lower than the NFL or the MLB (and maybe the NHL), but they still get paid more. You have not proven that the scarcity of NBA-quality players is significantly higher than the scarcity of NFL-quality players. You are merely strengthening my argument that NBA players are overpaid and should take 50-50 and run.
 
And in real life that is a major factor in dictating pay. Someone with an Engineering degree is going to get paid more than someone with a Psychology degree because the Engineering degree is a more exclusive,difficult to obtain degree.
Just to underscore the point:
There are about 119 Division I NCAA football teams.
https://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20070715172350AASeqmY

There are over 300 Division I NCAA basketball teams.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/College_basketball#Division_I

The NBA has 30 teams; the NFL, 32. About the same.

So, assuming that the rate of talent development is comparable between sports and that the respective team size is about the same in college vs. pros for each sport, the labor supply for basketball is substantially higher.

Add in international players (which are rare in football), and the NBA labor supply is even higher, thus warranting a lower "price of labor" than in the NFL.

Add in the average college time per football player vs. basketball player, and your argument about the "more difficult degree" further supports that NBA players should be paid less than football players because they are usually required to obtain more pre-NFL training (i.e., college, including practice) than NBA players do.

Add in relative risk of injury, and the NFL has further basis for warranting higher salaries.

You've got your work cut out for you if you're gonna continue to argue that NBA players deserve more pay relative to other major sports (or pretty much any other profession in the world) on the basis of having to work harder.

The big difference in the salary disparity is that the NFL owners have been more effective in negotiating more reasonable salaries.

And that's exactly what the owners want to fix now. 50-50 is reasonable; it's in line with the NFL, and the average salaries stay #1 among major professional sports.

But during the lockout, the players' earnings (besides money owed from last year) is dead last: $0.
 
Wtf are you talking about? You are by far one of the most annoying posters on this forum.

Lol. I know its extremely difficult to tell what sort of tone an internet-delivered message contains, but IGS's posts just come across as so ****ing pompous. Not sure if its just me.
 
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