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[fishonjazz]

I think the disagreements with gvc is simple to explain.

When gvc and i (or some of you others) watch a game we see the same things...... we see all the same positives and negatives.

The difference is that when i log into jazzfanz to talk about how a player played in a game or season or whatever, i focus most of my discussion on the positives of the jazz player being discussed and touch lightly in the negatives.

Gvc focuses on the negatives of the player and touches lightly on the positives.

Tbh gvc's take is probably more valueable (though less popular) since it is in most of our nature to accentuate the positive side and ignore the negative.

So for that gvc should be somewhat commended.

Its not easy to talk badly about jazz players to a message board filled with jazzfanz and then have to deal with the backlash.

 

[cowhide]

Excellent post and yes it was the longest post EVER!!! Your strongest argument was how Ty handcuff Kanter. I remember Millsap saying that he could always shoot the three pointer but the coach didn't allow it in Utah. I think Kanter has been misused and has regressed in ways. However, I started see the old Kanter at the end of the season. He seemed like he was getting his legs back. I really think people don't understand how much his injury affected his conditioning. Hopefully, the new coach will see the complete game of Kanter and teach him how to effectively use it. I still have high hopes for Enes. I want to see him run the floor better, shoot the 3pt, and pass better (he has improved but has a long way to go) and improve his off the ball defense.

 

[cowhide]

I think the disagreements with gvc is simple to explain.

When gvc and i (or some of you others) watch a game we see the same things...... we see all the same positives and negatives.

The difference is that when i log into jazzfanz to talk about how a player played in a game or season or whatever, i focus most of my discussion on the positives of the jazz player being discussed and touch lightly in the negatives.

Gvc focuses on the negatives of the player and touches lightly on the positives.

Tbh gvc's take is probably more valueable (though less popular) since it is in most of our nature to accentuate the positive side and ignore the negative.

So for that gvc should be somewhat commended.

Its not easy to talk badly about jazz players to a message board filled with jazzfanz and then have to deal with the backlash.

Moderation in all things. I don't have a problem with either approach up to a point. GVC sometimes crosses the line and loses his objectivity. While pro- AK, pro-Raja bell, pro-Carlos Arroyo fans simply can't see the flaws in their "heros". Neither is wrong but there is a fine line when both sides become annoying. We are all guilty of it at times. Some fans take it personally when one of their favorites gets criticized especially if the player is from their country or religion. I know I've grow tired of the Lets get Parker crowd, which has pushed me onto the I hope we don't get him. In reality, I would be excited about landing Parker but I would have concerns how that choice might become a lighting rod on this forum. Anyways, I've enjoyed the discussion and think everyone has made some good points.

I hope Enes steps it up this year but I would trade him if I thought it would make the team better. Right now I don't think Enes has enough credibility to get back equal talent and I still want to give him an opportunity to show all his abilities.

 

[fishonjazz]

I hope Enes steps it up this year but I would trade him if I thought it would make the team better. Right now I don't think Enes has enough credibility to get back equal talent and I still want to give him an opportunity to show all his abilities.

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[Stoked]

Moderation in all things. I don't have a problem with either approach up to a point. GVC sometimes crosses the line and loses his objectivity. While pro- AK, pro-Raja bell, pro-Carlos Arroyo fans simply can't see the flaws in their "heros". Neither is wrong but there is a fine line when both sides become annoying. We are all guilty of it at times. Some fans take it personally when one of their favorites gets criticized especially if the player is from their country or religion. I know I've grow tired of the Lets get Parker crowd, which has pushed me onto the I hope we don't get him. In reality, I would be excited about landing Parker but I would have concerns how that choice might become a lighting rod on this forum. Anyways, I've enjoyed the discussion and think everyone has made some good points.

I hope Enes steps it up this year but I would trade him if I thought it would make the team better. Right now I don't think Enes has enough credibility to get back equal talent and I still want to give him an opportunity to show all his abilities.

I am a fan of all the Jazz players associated with the "core" tag we throw around. But I would trade every single one of them if it made the Jazz better. In the quest for a ring no one is untouchable. That is a stand that has evolved and changed for me as I used to view a couple of them as untouchable.

 

[NUMBERICA]

In regards to the idea of trading Kanter: I have long been on the record that his value league-wide isn't as high as his value here (or his perceived potential here and that the Jazz invested a lot in him by burning the 3rd pick in the draft on him), so trading him would probably be difficult considering the likely return.

But as with probably any player on this team, if he and #5 gets you into the top-3, pull that ****ing trigger.