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Step-Back Lauri said:
I've always wrote the endings of my novels as the first thing. Yes, they might have seen minor tweaks after I wrote down the rest of the story. But it helps a lot to make sure the ending is well done and draws the story together. I suspect the author's that have poor endings, just go with the flow and rush it in the end with the deadlines of the publishers looming behind the corner.
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As a reader I think there are times you can tell a story was written with the ending already finished. I generally love it.
 
Step-Back Lauri said:
I've always wrote the endings of my novels as the first thing. Yes, they might have seen minor tweaks after I wrote down the rest of the story. But it helps a lot to make sure the ending is well done and draws the story together. I suspect the author's that have poor endings, just go with the flow and rush it in the end with the deadlines of the publishers looming behind the corner.
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Have you shared with us what you have written before?
 
LogGrad98 said:
Agreed on ending a book. It's what ruined the dark tower series by King for me, his ending was just bad and kind of a cop-out. I'll have to check out this book you're discussing in this thread.
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Ya the dark tower is my favorite story of all time so the ending obviously didn't ruin the previous 4500ish pages but it's definitely a poor ending. I liked the last "battle" (especially the tie in to the book called insomnia) and I enjoyed the experience of Roland climbing up the tower and all the flashbacks and nostalgia but when he finally gets to the top and we find out that he just starts the journey over, albeit with a new item in his arsenal to change things this go round, I was pretty bummed out.

I have read all 7 dark tower books a handful of times (only read wind through the keyhole once though). I love the story and can't wait for the TV series and multiple movies that are supposedly upcoming and being done by the best there is at King adaptations.

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fishonjazz said:
Ya the dark tower is my favorite story of all time so the ending obviously didn't ruin the previous 4500ish pages but it's definitely a poor ending. I liked the last "battle" (especially the tie in to the book called insomnia) and I enjoyed the experience of Roland climbing up the tower and all the flashbacks and nostalgia but when he finally gets to the top and we find out that he just starts the journey over, albeit with a new item in his arsenal to change things this go round, I was pretty bummed out.

I have read all 7 dark tower books a handful of times (only read wind through the keyhole once though). I love the story and can't wait for the TV series and multiple movies that are supposedly upcoming and being done by the best there is at King adaptations.

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You mean you didn’t like 4,500 pages being condensed down to a hour film with Elba and McConaghy?
 
Miggs said:
You mean you didn’t like 4,500 pages being condensed down to a hour film with Elba and McConaghy?
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This is correct.
Though I was extremely excited to see McConaghy as The Man in Black/Marten Broadcloak/Walter O' Dim/Randall Flagg/The Walkin Dude/Walter Paddick/Richard Fannen etc

Just a horrible horrible execution, to your point, impossibly dumb idea in the first place. Then because of that flop, others were scared off from making anymore Dark Tower film/tv projects.
 
fishonjazz said:
This is correct.
Though I was extremely excited to see McConaghy as The Man in Black/Marten Broadcloak/Walter O' Dim/Randall Flagg/The Walkin Dude/Walter Paddick/Richard Fannen etc

Just a horrible horrible execution, to your point, impossibly dumb idea in the first place. Then because of that flop, others were scared off from making anymore Dark Tower film/tv projects.
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Yeah, I’ve never read it and I’m not sure if one studio exclusively owns the right to it, but I’m not sure why HBO hasn’t attempted to make it into a mini-series. The same goes for McCarthy’s (No Country for Old Men, The Road) Blood Meridian.
 
I started the "Dungeon Crawler Carl" series recently on audiobook. It's a lot of fun. I'm almost halfway through the third book. 7 books have been released and I think it is supposed to be 10 books total.
 
fishonjazz said:
Ya the dark tower is my favorite story of all time so the ending obviously didn't ruin the previous 4500ish pages but it's definitely a poor ending. I liked the last "battle" (especially the tie in to the book called insomnia) and I enjoyed the experience of Roland climbing up the tower and all the flashbacks and nostalgia but when he finally gets to the top and we find out that he just starts the journey over, albeit with a new item in his arsenal to change things this go round, I was pretty bummed out.

I have read all 7 dark tower books a handful of times (only read wind through the keyhole once though). I love the story and can't wait for the TV series and multiple movies that are supposedly upcoming and being done by the best there is at King adaptations.

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I got into a discussion with some friends about this and I think it would have added to the story if there were Eld artifacts throughout other books, like the Horn, that the team somehow collected in the other stories. Could have made the Dark Tower itself like a hub system in a video game and had them go into the tower, end up at the 2nd level where there was a tie-in to another story, or the next book, or whatever and had a use for each artifact to get them higher up the tower each time, and as the story progressed they just keep revisiting the tower,. gaining new artifacts as they go, with a final battle involving all of the artifacts that freed the Dark Tower from the power of the King, and re-set all the connections through the help of the various breakers we were introduced to. I would have been fine if the final battle essentially acted as a reset and sent Roland back to his youth with his father and maybe another encounter with the man in black when he convinced his father to imprison him so he could not wreak mischief across the realms. Something like that would have been really solid.
 
Miggs said:
Yeah, I’ve never read it and I’m not sure if one studio exclusively owns the right to it, but I’m not sure why HBO hasn’t attempted to make it into a mini-series. The same goes for McCarthy’s (No Country for Old Men, The Road) Blood Meridian.
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His best book.

Blood Meridian can’t be made now because David Lynch has left us. RIP


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BabyPeterzz said:
His best book.

Blood Meridian can’t be made now because David Lynch has left us. RIP


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I never envisioned Lynch as someone who should helm it. Ridley Scott had it at one point. I’m glad he let it go. Todd Fields had it too evidently. He was always a very interesting choice to me…his resume is so damn thin though. The Coen Bros seem like a good fit but I’m not sure they’re quite right. I pondered on Jeff Nichols because there’s a sort of Americana in it but not really in the same way. Eastwood is too old and past his prime.

I think of everyone working and I land on Del Toro because I absolutely loved Nightmare Alley and there is a fairly similar vibe in the two materials…
 
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