Prop 1

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We already have enough money from taxes going to this stuff, there is enough money to make great public transportation. We need to be more creative and cost effective with the money not increase taxes. Dont raise taxes, learn to fix the money problems first.

We are paying our Execs in SLC as much as large cities no reason they need to be paid the same as those people. Cost of living is much lower here and our city is much smaller.

Alt do you work for UTA? or for the government?

No I do not.

We don't have enough money to pay for transportation. Not only is our population growing crazy fast but vehicles use less fuel, more and more are electric or natural gas, more people are turning to mass transit, and people are biking more.

I agree that UTA needs reform but cutting salaries at UTA will not make up for the gap between the money needed for transportation and the money available. How much do you think we could honestly cut from salaries?

 

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UTA is a well run "company"? That's laughable.

 

[Ron Mexico]

No I do not.

We don't have enough money to pay for transportation. Not only is our population growing crazy fast but vehicles use less fuel, more and more are electric or natural gas, more people are turning to mass transit, and people are biking more.

I agree that UTA needs reform but cutting salaries at UTA will not make up for the gap between the money needed for transportation and the money available. How much do you think we could honestly cut from salaries?

Salaries are only part off the problem. They are wasting money everywhere. Throwing more money at it is a bandaid for a deep wound. Uta is one of the poorest run public transportation especially for the budget they have.

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Salaries are only part off the problem. They are wasting money everywhere. Throwing more money at it is a bandaid for a deep wound. Uta is one of the poorest run public transportation especially for the budget they have.

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Can you be more specific? Who is doing better with less money?

 

[Ron Mexico]

Can you be more specific? Who is doing better with less money?

Honolulu, Eugene, San Jose are a few that pop in my head.

Salt Lake City is around the 24th most used transit system in the US. We pay a much higher average of our sales tax .69 percent last time I heard. Which is well above the average. We have longer wait times than the average and less access to jobs via public transportation than average. They are also pretty low on most rankings by public opinion.

Then we could compare to other countries, since USA has poor transportation compared to many international cities.

I wish we would combine buses for high school kids and the city. It would save a lot of money. No reason kids need their own buses in high school.

 

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Honolulu, Eugene, San Jose are a few that pop in my head.

Salt Lake City is around the 24th most used transit system in the US. We pay a much higher average of our sales tax .69 percent last time I heard. Which is well above the average. We have longer wait times than the average and less access to jobs via public transportation than average. They are also pretty low on most rankings by public opinion.

Then we could compare to other countries, since USA has poor transportation compared to many international cities.

I wish we would combine buses for high school kids and the city. It would save a lot of money. No reason kids need their own buses in high school.

They already do combine bases in salt lake. Kids at salt lake school districts ride uta buses on certain routes. Not all of them, but some of them are already doing that.

Saying that you want to do more with less is ridiculous. Add more routes with magic free buses and drivers who don't get paid? Where will the money come from to support more transit programs ?

 

[Ron Mexico]

They already do combine bases in salt lake. Kids at salt lake school districts ride uta buses on certain routes. Not all of them, but some of them are already doing that.

Saying that you want to do more with less is ridiculous. Add more routes with magic free buses and drivers who don't get paid? Where will the money come from to support more transit programs ?

I didnt know that in SLC but that is great, I wish we would do more with that. I have never seen a reason for separate school buses.

Money being spent on bureaucracy and inefficieny is a calling card of government programs in general. I would rather just spend my money on Uber or Lift instead of being taxed more for a crappy system that we are overpaying for. If you think we are spending our money for public transportation as efficiently as possible than I guess there could be a reason to increase taxes for it, but I dont. As the city grows and more people come in their budget increases proportionately to the growth, I dont see a need to for us to pay more per person and higher percentage of our income. I dont want to pay more taxes, we are already over taxed and generally when taxes go up agencies use their money less efficiently.

So we increased out Gas tax for public transportation but thats not enough so now we are increasing our sales tax another .25 on top of the .64 they are already getting? They are claiming this is a permanent solution. They claim inflation caused the .64 not to be enough but adding .25 will fix the problem for good...

Sorry I dont think increasing taxes will solve the problems. And paying our UTA execs the same or more as major cities that are 10x our size like LA is a prime example of wasting money but not the only thing happening. This money isnt just for UTA it can also go to roads, so we can continue to look at projects short sided and spend millions to fix a road just to have to redo it in a couple years because of an increase in traffic that was predicted and known ahead of time.

 

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Honolulu, Eugene, San Jose are a few that pop in my head.

Salt Lake City is around the 24th most used transit system in the US. We pay a much higher average of our sales tax .69 percent last time I heard. Which is well above the average. We have longer wait times than the average and less access to jobs via public transportation than average. They are also pretty low on most rankings by public opinion.

Then we could compare to other countries, since USA has poor transportation compared to many international cities.

I wish we would combine buses for high school kids and the city. It would save a lot of money. No reason kids need their own buses in high school.

I looked up San Jose. The VTA is funded by a 1 and 1/8th cent sales tax and they have an increase on the ballot this year that is double prop1. They have also gotten quite a bit of funding from the state of California. I imagine they also get more from their sales tax because they have more wealthy residents in Santa Clara County than we do in SL. Further they benefit from surrounding counties with good transit systems.

Salt lake does have a .69 of a cent tax but surrounding counties are lower(this is why your transit sucks other counties). I bet if you looked at funding per rider(I can't find it) San Jose is funded much better.

 

[♪alt13]

Honolulu, Eugene, San Jose are a few that pop in my head.

Salt Lake City is around the 24th most used transit system in the US. We pay a much higher average of our sales tax .69 percent last time I heard. Which is well above the average. We have longer wait times than the average and less access to jobs via public transportation than average. They are also pretty low on most rankings by public opinion.

Then we could compare to other countries, since USA has poor transportation compared to many international cities.

I wish we would combine buses for high school kids and the city. It would save a lot of money. No reason kids need their own buses in high school.

I looked up San Jose. The VTA is funded by a 1 and 1/8th cent sales tax and they have an increase on the ballot this year that is double prop1. They have also gotten quite a bit of funding from the state of California. I imagine they also get more from their sales tax because they have more wealthy residents in Santa Clara County than we do in SL. Further they benefit from surrounding counties with good transit systems.

Salt lake does have a .69 of a cent tax but surrounding counties are lower(this is why your transit sucks other counties). I bet if you looked at funding per rider(I can't find it) San Jose is funded much better.