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Question Regarding Politics and Religion

I mostly look for a president who seems intelligent, classy, well spoken, caring, and confident. (Reasons I liked obama and hated george w and hate trump)
Trump checks off nothing from my list btw.
 
it should make a difference! as Islam is all about domination! submit to allah and sharia law!


islam is a political system!

In a system designed for checks on that power it makes zero difference. I do not care that you view Islam as a political system. That changes nothing about what a President can and cannot do.

So basically stop trying to fear monger. It will not work with me.
 
I think I would really really really like george bush to hang out with and go fishing with or something.
I would probably like him more than any other president in history on a personal level.
 
Probably the same place most anti war protestors were during the anti abortion protests.

Other than that nice post lol

killing for the state and terminating a pregnancy are two very different things.
 
I think I would really really really like george bush to hang out with and go fishing with or something.
I would probably like him more than any other president in history on a personal level.

You hick. I'd party with JFK or maybe Ulysses S Grant, he liked to tie one on, even pants-less Bill seems like a better option.
 
The Obama is a Muslim also made 0 sense to me.

1. He's not

2. Even if he secretly was, I do not care. It makes 0 difference.

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killing for the state and terminating a pregnancy are two very different things.

Strictly true. But not really. If you believe a fetus is a human, since you can protest both things on the same grounds.
 
A couple of people here seem to think that it is only moral legislation if it is someone else's morality that is being enforced. Theirs is just common sense!

Politics are ALL about moral legislation. Pro-choice politicians force one view of morality on every one else, and pro-lifers try to enforce another.

As for my vote, it would depend on their stances and my options. It is unlikely that I'd vote for a "fundamentalist Christian", since they are likely to operate from a socially regressive outlook. But I would still judge them the way I judge anyone else; on the substance of their ideas.


I don't think its an entirely open paradigm, some things we can all agree on that are absolutely norms of any organised society and social structure. Then there are others things that we can disagree about, less fundamental, more about the limitations of personal choice. In a sense they are all informed by some sense of morality or humanist impulse but that is far from representing an organised religious agenda.
 
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