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Randy Foye quote/coaching philosophy

cctrackstar

cctrackstar

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So I was going over the thunder post game show and Randy Foye was asked about his role on the team and he said something like 'when i'm hot he runs the point, when he's hot I run the point'.

that's the two guard set. Does that work? What do folks think about that? Before when the Jazz did the two point guard system both of the point guards were scrub players none of which are even still in the league. Now one of them is a proven 3 point threat veteran and the other one is a 6'6 combo shooting guard who is fast as lightning and some think is the most athletic player on the team.

I think it could work, those two coming off the bench with neither being the designated point guard.
 
I like the two guard set. Look at the Dwill/Dfish setup. As much as we don't like those two, it got us to the Western Conference Finals.
 
cctrackstar said:
So I was going over the thunder post game show and Randy Foye was asked about his role on the team and he said something like 'when i'm hot he runs the point, when he's hot I run the point'.

that's the two guard set. Does that work? What do folks think about that? Before when the Jazz did the two point guard system both of the point guards were scrub players none of which are even still in the league. Now one of them is a proven 3 point threat veteran and the other one is a 6'6 combo shooting guard who is fast as lightning and some think is the most athletic player on the team.

I think it could work, those two coming off the bench with neither being the designated point guard.
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The other guy Foye is referring to is Mo?
 
Boooo to this idea. Sounds like what is being said is that the jazz will play two point guards alot of the time (Mo, Foye), which means they start mo at the 1 and hayward at the 2, then bring foye in off the bench to play with tinsley/watson.

No minutes for burks :(
 
ElRoach0 said:
I like the two guard set. Look at the Dwill/Dfish setup. As much as we don't like those two, it got us to the Western Conference Finals.
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Boozer and a lucky draw (W's) got the Jazz to the Western Conference Finals.
 
GVC said:
Boozer and a lucky draw (W's) got the Jazz to the Western Conference Finals.
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I see you haven't received the latest revision of history. Boozer had nothing to do with it. Dwill had nothing to do with it. We are at war with Eurasia. We have always been at war with Eurasia.
 
cctrackstar said:
Before when the Jazz did the two point guard system both of the point guards were scrub players none of which are even still in the league. Now one of them is a proven 3 point threat veteran and the other one is a 6'6 combo shooting guard who is fast as lightning and some think is the most athletic player on the team.

I think it could work, those two coming off the bench with neither being the designated point guard.
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You forget Sloan played Deron and Maynor together quite a bit, allowing Williams to be the off-guard in the offensive sets. Of course, as I'm sure some will "point" out (pun intended), the Jazz were actually playing two PG's together. In this case, neither Foye nor Burks is a true PG. They're both SG's with decent, but not great, ball-handling abilities.

That said, I actually like the idea of Burks and Foye playing together. No, it's not going to work against starters, but I think it can be very effective against opposing backups. Burks needs the ball in his hands so he can create offense. With Favors, Millsap or Kanter...whoever is playing PF...we're never going to have the classic P&R offense of Stockton to Malone. So the Jazz offense needs to adapt. What we do have with Mo is a combo guard who can shoot from outside. Foye is much the same, although with less true PG skills. What we have with Burks is a guard who can penetrate, and as he progresses, hopefully know when to put it up and look for the bucket or foul and when to kick it back out.

I like what the Jazz are doing. Namely, acquiring players who can fit in multiple positions. Lot of flexibility in terms of creating mismatches or matching up with different teams. And it will certainly help as the luxury tax threshhold becomes more of a factor in the coming years. I've said this before, but the Jazz are eventually going to have to decide on a core 8-9, then backfill the rest of the roster with cheap rookies or vets near the minimum, i.e. guys who generally just play in garbage time or in case of injuries. Or rookies who develop and then work themselves into the core, replacing a player who leaves as a FA or whose contract is traded away.

Even the big-market teams have or will start making adjustments by 2015. Knicks let Lin walk, Lakers know Kobe will come off the books in two years. Miami and Brooklyn may have 2-3 more years with their rosters before making key changes.
 
fishonjazz said:
Boooo to this idea. Sounds like what is being said is that the jazz will play two point guards alot of the time (Mo, Foye), which means they start mo at the 1 and hayward at the 2, then bring foye in off the bench to play with tinsley/watson.

No minutes for burks :(
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Agreed. This boy is going to blossom this year. Corbin won't be able to deny him minutes halfway through the season when he's killin it.
 
ElRoach0 said:
Yes, it was all Boozer. Point in Fact: How well he's carrying the Bulls. >.>
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So because Boozer isn't as effective 5 years later, playing in a completely different offense with a different set of teammates, he wasn't (easily) the biggest reason the Jazz got to the WCF in 07? It was all Derek Fisher at the 2. Any other gems to share?
 
GVC said:
So because Boozer isn't as effective 5 years later, playing in a completely different offense with a different set of teammates, he wasn't (easily) the biggest reason the Jazz got to the WCF in 07? It was all Derek Fisher at the 2. Any other gems to share?
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How well Boozer is doing 5 years later(at the tender age of just 30) seems to say something about his game.. that he may have benefited from two PG's. 23.5/12.2 in the 07 playoffs is very hard to argue with. But add in Boozer's Toro defense and it's not all that hard to believe Deron, with his 19.2/8.6 assists, and 1.5 steals with comparable blocks might argue the point.

But I will cede the following: I didn't mean to say that the 2 PG setup was the biggest reason we made it to the WCF, only that we made it to the WCF with that setup. My apologies if there was some confusion. After reading it, I can see how my words may have inferred something else.
 
nightmare3983 said:
Could be. I didn't hear the interview. That's why I asked. This does make sense though as Foye likely won't be starting.
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The problem is it wont be foye and burks off the bench,... it will be foye and tinsley/watson off the bench.
No burks

Free alec burks.... please
 
fishonjazz said:
The problem is it wont be foye and burks off the bench,... it will be foye and tinsley/watson off the bench.
No burks

Free alec burks.... please
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I think Burks will get some burn at PG. I really think the Jazz believe he can be a combo guard, certainly not a starter at the 1, but a backup. They've made it a point since summer league to talk about him getting time there. In the summer league, he was essentially the PG with Stockton or Ahearn playing off the ball (well, standing off the ball might be a better term). This is likely Watson and/or Tinsley's last season with Utah. I could see the Jazz drafting a young PG to learn behind Mo, with Burks being the back-up and retaining Watson or Tinsley to be an emergency starter.

I don't see Foye starting. It will be Mo-Hayward-Marvin-Jefferson and probably Millsap. Marvin has certainly convinced me he should start at SF. You don't bench Hayward, so that puts him at the 2. I don't think Kanter is quite ready to start. In fact, I want him to just come in and DOMINATE the opposing sub. Get his confidence sky high and let him score and rebound at will before he has to face the starting 5's in the league. Favors and Millsap is a toss-up for me. I'd like to see Derrick start, but he is just struggling to much on offense. Just like Kanter, let him abuse backups and work on his post moves as a backup, while still giving him 25-30 mins.
 
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