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Ron Mexico said:
I agree we need a backup PF since I doubt the Jazz want JJ to fill that role too much in the regular season because he will wear down too much. But I could be wrong, they might be thinking that is his spot now. Either way we need to pick up a cheap backup PF but there are still some left that will do just fine. Although I am still hoping we go after Mirotic.

Also a 2nd round pick is not useful in filling the PF spot.

But we still have Favors, JJ, Bolomboy and Diaw that are PFs. We also have Ingles who can play some there.
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Should maybe keep Eric griffin too
 
Ron Mexico said:
I think that is reasonable. I do think he could have done more but I am not sure it would have helped. There were still attainable players that might have convinced him to stay. I give him an F if Hayward actually requested a trade last off season and they held on to him. The Jazz sound like they were pretty confident in re-signing Hayward. I wonder what Hayward said to them and what they knew. Some people claim to know he was leaving but those might have been pure guesses that just happened to be right. Based on what the Jazz did with Hayward they must have thought they had the best chance of signing him over any other team.
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What more could he have done? Please specify. Did you read the drivel Gordon wrote about Stevens? The two are in love with each other. There is ZERO, NADA, ZILCH, that could have kept those lovers apart.

And even IF Hayward had said "trade me to Boston" last summer, what would Ainge have given Utah? Maybe a 2nd round pick? He knew he could get Hayward for free this summer. Why give up assets? And can you imagine the outrage by fans? And criticism on this board? The same posters who are slamming DL now, would have picked him apart for not giving Gordon a chance to decide. For not allowing a playoff run to turn his heart to Utah. And for getting a terrible return on a trade. DL was in a no-win situation.

Maybe the only thing DL didn't know was the depth of the Stevens/Hayward emotional bond. And he may not have known Gordon had zero respect for his current teammates. Ingles was supposedly his best friend. The team was supposedly very close. Yet Hayward only mentions Jeremy Evans in his manifesto? It's no wonder Ainge likes Hayward. They're two of the coldest men on the planet.
 
Shad said:
If Colin gave the Celtics a D then no doubt we get an F. We lost 40+ ppg in agency for 10 points per game so far. AND WE ALREADY WERE ONE OF THE LOWEST SCORING TEAMS IN THE NBA LOL
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We were lose scoring because of pace, not because of offensive inability. Point per possession-wise, we were 12th best.
 
Of course we get an F. Jazz lost their 1st or 2nd best player (depending on what you value). Not sure you can say 40 pts/game. Hill only played in 1/2 of our games, so discount that stat.

Jazz take a huge hit this season. Hayward made sure free agency was essentially over before he made his announcement. And I say "announcement" because it was very evident as he was giving his final interviews after the GS loss, that he was done with the Jazz. Those who failed to see it are just very naive. NO ONE who intends to stay with their teams uses the phrases that he did, the complete noncommittal tone he used. Not once, even a "hope to return" comment.

So "F" this season. But DL isn't a quitter. He'll go back to the drawing board with Quin. They'll evaluate some key items this season (like Exum and Hood) and target potential trades at the deadline or trades/FA's next summer.
 
Jack Strop said:
What more could he have done? Please specify. Did you read the drivel Gordon wrote about Stevens? The two are in love with each other. There is ZERO, NADA, ZILCH, that could have kept those lovers apart.

And even IF Hayward had said "trade me to Boston" last summer, what would Ainge have given Utah? Maybe a 2nd round pick? He knew he could get Hayward for free this summer. Why give up assets? And can you imagine the outrage by fans? And criticism on this board? The same posters who are slamming DL now, would have picked him apart for not giving Gordon a chance to decide. For not allowing a playoff run to turn his heart to Utah. And for getting a terrible return on a trade. DL was in a no-win situation.

Maybe the only thing DL didn't know was the depth of the Stevens/Hayward emotional bond. And he may not have known Gordon had zero respect for his current teammates. Ingles was supposedly his best friend. The team was supposedly very close. Yet Hayward only mentions Jeremy Evans in his manifesto? It's no wonder Ainge likes Hayward. They're two of the coldest men on the planet.
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In that case you trade him to a different team and let them eat it. Any assets are better than none, IF YOU KNOW WHAT IS COMING. That is the problem. I am sure Hayworthless sat on the decision, lead the team along, and then dropped it on them like a bombshell. You don't take a contingent to San Diego to sit in the guy's front room if you know for a fact you have no chance. He was a weasel about the whole thing.
 
LogGrad98 said:
In that case you trade him to a different team and let them eat it. Any assets are better than none, IF YOU KNOW WHAT IS COMING. That is the problem. I am sure Hayworthless sat on the decision, lead the team along, and then dropped it on them like a bombshell. You don't take a contingent to San Diego to sit in the guy's front room if you know for a fact you have no chance. He was a weasel about the whole thing.
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And suffer the backlash from sponsors, advertisers and fans? The ONLY way Utah could have made a trade is if Hayward went public a la George. Then I agree, the team does EXACTLY what Indiana did. OKC is willing to take a chance they can change George's mind about LA.

But Hayward was a unique situation. Every team was aware of the Stevens/Hayward bond. I'm really not sure anyone would have given much more than a late 1st (e.g a playoff team thinking the addition of Hayward might give them a chance against GS).

But that's ASSUMING Utah knew. And their actions showed they really didn't. Otherwise the draft and even free agency on the 1st or 2nd probably would have been different.
 
MT Steve said:
We were lose scoring because of pace, not because of offensive inability. Point per possession-wise, we were 12th best.
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Doesn't matter what we were. It's what we ARE. Our offense will struggle, there's no doubt.
 
Rate the offseason?

How snarky can I be? The most Utah-esque player in the NBA just walked away from a max contract to play in Utah. Trey Burke and Trey Lyles are taking turns mocking the Jazz on Twitter and Tony Bradley looks like he is about 3-years away from being 1 or 2 years away.

I think everything is going well.
 
Ron Mexico said:
I think that is reasonable. I do think he could have done more but I am not sure it would have helped. There were still attainable players that might have convinced him to stay. I give him an F if Hayward actually requested a trade last off season and they held on to him. The Jazz sound like they were pretty confident in re-signing Hayward. I wonder what Hayward said to them and what they knew. Some people claim to know he was leaving but those might have been pure guesses that just happened to be right. Based on what the Jazz did with Hayward they must have thought they had the best chance of signing him over any other team.
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Hood made a comment yesterday saying that GH hid his real intention real good during that meeting. I don't think anyone really knows how he thinks. He is one who skirts around controversy though. So I doubt he told the Jazz to trade him. Just kept quiet till he was UFA

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Jack Strop said:
And suffer the backlash from sponsors, advertisers and fans? The ONLY way Utah could have made a trade is if Hayward went public a la George. Then I agree, the team does EXACTLY what Indiana did. OKC is willing to take a chance they can change George's mind about LA.

But Hayward was a unique situation. Every team was aware of the Stevens/Hayward bond. I'm really not sure anyone would have given much more than a late 1st (e.g a playoff team thinking the addition of Hayward might give them a chance against GS).

But that's ASSUMING Utah knew. And their actions showed they really didn't. Otherwise the draft and even free agency on the 1st or 2nd probably would have been different.
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Awe come on now. Morey would give his left nut and anything he could of got his hands on. Philly may have took a chance too.

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