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Real GM: the case for Dante Exum

Stifle Tower said:
So essentially adding Burks and Hood and factoring in internal improvement from especially Exum and Gobert, but also from the rest only improves our win total by 6-8 games? To me, that represents significant failure and a few players would need to be traded.
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Burks and Hood are the main X-factors with Exum to perhaps a smaller extent. If the Jazz only win 6 more games next year, it means one or both of those guys were major disappointments and Exum didn't improve as much as most hoped and the Jazz will need to look at making a significant move toward upgrading at least SG, perhaps PG next summer.
 
Cy said:
Maybe, or maybe all the stars would make ridiculous amounts of money which would allow others to build deeper teams.
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Let's say there was no cap. The Jazz might be able to afford to spend $100 million on salaries. The Lakers, with a fan base at least ten times as big, might be able to spend $250 million. And you honestly believe that the Jazz could compete in those circumstances? Your solution would result in a league where a handful of teams would have all the money and all of the talent. If the Jazz developed a good player it would only be a matter of time before a big market stole them away, not simply because they could offer more money, but also because they would offer the only legit opportunity to win. In short, your idea would be disastrous to small market franchises.
 
Joe Bagadonuts said:
Let's say there was no cap. The Jazz might be able to afford to spend $100 million on salaries. The Lakers, with a fan base at least ten times as big, might be able to spend $250 million. And you honestly believe that the Jazz could compete in those circumstances? Your solution would result in a league where a handful of teams would have all the money and all of the talent. If the Jazz developed a good player it would only be a matter of time before a big market stole them away, not simply because they could offer more money, but also because they would offer the only legit opportunity to win. In short, your idea would be disastrous to small market franchises.
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I dont think so. Pretty sure there has been more Championship parity in MLB than there has been in NBA.
 
Cy said:
I dont think so. Pretty sure there has been more Championship parity in MLB than there has been in NBA.
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I'm not a baseball fan so I'm sure you know more about this than me, but a quick Google search shows me that MLB has a luxury tax so I don't understand your point.
 
Cy said:
Well, there can still be a LT mark with no cap. I never said no LT.
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Whatever. As far as I can determine a luxury tax line and a cap line are effectively the exact same thing (teams can go over but they pay a penalty for doing so) so this discussion is pointless. We apparently both agree that some sort of limit is necessary, even though you are saying the opposite.
 
Joe Bagadonuts said:
Whatever. As far as I can determine a luxury tax line and a cap line are effectively the exact same thing (teams can go over but they pay a penalty for doing so) so this discussion is pointless. We apparently both agree that some sort of limit is necessary, even though you are saying the opposite.
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Not really.

If you are over the cap, you can't sign another player over the MLE slot (right?). If you have no cap, but a LT, you still allow teams to sign people, just at a huge cost.

We don't agree on a limit. I agree on no limits, but for $$$ penalties to be imposed if a team wants to go above a certain amount.
 
Joe Bagadonuts said:
Whatever. As far as I can determine a luxury tax line and a cap line are effectively the exact same thing (teams can go over but they pay a penalty for doing so) so this discussion is pointless. We apparently both agree that some sort of limit is necessary, even though you are saying the opposite.
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lol
 
I'm actually pretty pumped about our team this coming season, and Exum is no exception.

Excitement levels regarding players I want to watch.

Exum
Gobert
Burks
Hood
Hayward
Favors
Lyles
Pleiss
Booker
Cotton

Gob, Hay, and Favors are a little low on the list mostly because I already have a good idea of what I'll see from them.
I guess I can throw Neto on the bottom of the list, and Ingles post game interviews in there.

I'm probably drowning in the KoolAid, but I can see this team winning 50+ barring injury issues.
I'd call for someone to throw me a rope, but I don't want out.
 
Cy said:
There should be no cap at all.

Just let teams spend what they want. That would probably make for the most fair contracts around the league.
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Cy said:
Not really.

If you are over the cap, you can't sign another player over the MLE slot (right?). If you have no cap, but a LT, you still allow teams to sign people, just at a huge cost.

We don't agree on a limit. I agree on no limits, but for $$$ penalties to be imposed if a team wants to go above a certain amount.
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I'll leave it to others to determine whether your conclusion bears any meaningful relationship to your post that started this discussion. To me it feels like you are moving the goal posts all over the field.
 
Joe Bagadonuts said:
I'll leave it to others to determine whether your conclusion bears any meaningful relationship to your post that started this discussion. To me it feels like you are moving the goal posts all over the field.
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Cap and LT are 2 different things moron.
 
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