Reasons you left the LDS church.

[YB85]

I've often wondered how many believers would be believers if their parents belonged to a different religion. This goes with any religion. If Joseph Smith/Muhammed/Whoever started their religion today instead of when they did, would you buy in or would you view them as a charlatan or as delusional?

 

[Gyp Rosetti]

What the **** does this even mean?

This.

 

[Gyp Rosetti]

Numberica is anti-LDS? What a surprise.

You make it sound like that's a bad thing. Should a child of God not judge?

 

[Gyp Rosetti]

Not at all, I have issues with Joseph marrying already married women, but my biggest issues are more with the Church not being open and discussing the controversial issues. If the church just admitted there have been mistakes it would help alot of people out.


I wouldn't leave the church because it provides way too much good for my family, but I just wish there was more transparency. Also the church walks a fine line of worshiping Joseph.

I'm curious about the "good for your family" of which you speak. It sounds to me like you're using the church and God. And God don't play dat.

 

[Jazz Spazz]

This is a heartwarming thing to say, but members of the LDS church absolutely do not agree with YB85's post.

To agree with YB85's post, you would have to NOT believe in the Celestial, Terrestrial, and Telestial Kingdoms, along with the degrees of glory within the Kingdoms themselves. For example, to obtain the highest degree of Celestial glory, you must be married and sealed in an LDS temple.

So yeah, you do believe that your particular religion gets better seats in The Luxury Box.

This is something that Joseph Smith, who you believe to have spoken directly to God, said in D&C 132 verses 15 through 20. If you're still not convinced, go ahead and read verse 21.

21 Verily, verily, I say unto you, except ye abide my law ye cannot attain to this glory.

This is the equivalent of using a microscope to look at one plant in an ecosystem, and then thinking you understand the whole ecosystem based on that one view. It's interesting to me how everything in the scriptures are focused on the goal of living with God, and everything in the LDS Church is based on returning to live with the God we were with before this life, and yet so many people get stuck focusing on one or two things that bother them that they forget to take a step back and see the whole picture. Every prophet, and every scripture points to Christ. Christ has accepted our burden, done what we could not do, and points us to God.

My understanding and belief on this topic, if I can word it well, is that even though certain physical ordinances are needed to get to the Celestial Kingdom ( live with God again), this has much more to do with what is inside each of us as a person. We can get baptized and married and all of that, but it has more to do with who we are inside. I think when all is said and done there will be plenty of surprises as to who is in the Celestial Kingdom, and who is not.

I post this just to clarify, not to convince. I know many of you have your reasons for doing what you do, and believing or not believing as you do. That is fine, I have no problem with that. I just hope that good communication and understanding, even if the two parties disagree, will lead to less hurt feelings and more civil comments.<--- that last part was in general, not directed at you Xsy

 

[Beantown]

I'm curious about the "good for your family" of which you speak. It sounds to me like you're using the church and God. And God don't play dat.

-It gives me lots of opportunities to serve
-gives me spirituality
-teaches me and my kids good values
-my kids love nursery/primary
-I do believe in God and Christ so it still gives me opportunity to worship
-overall it keeps our family closer

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

When I was in Middle School I went to a Presbyterian church cause most of my good friends did and they had sweet trips. After the trip of all trips ended (Snowboarding trip to Colorado) I considered that the peak of my relationship with Jesus and God, and I stopped going to church/caring about religion.

 

[Gyp Rosetti]

-It gives me lots of opportunities to serve
-gives me spirituality
-teaches me and my kids good values
-my kids love nursery/primary
-I do believe in God and Christ so it still gives me opportunity to worship
-overall it keeps our family closer

Do you believe that one can live as deep and fulfilling a life as you believe you have, without God in his or her life?

 

[Beantown]

Do you believe that one can live as deep and fulfilling a life as you believe you have, without God in his or her life?

Of course.

 

[CONAN]

I don't think this is true at all. I know many participating LDS church members that are very anti BYU sports.
So BYU sports haters have a portion of them that also do not like the LDS Church, is that really a surprise?
There are also plenty of BYU sports supporters that do not like the LDS Church. Maybe not as many, but they are out there.

No question. A better way to put that might be that by and large the bigtime BYU haters here are also anti-LDS.

 

[Darkwing Duck]

Rule #1 when talking to people about religion is to ask them what they believe, not tell them what they believe.

Unless, of course, it's missionaries telling people how much better their religion is than whatever it is that the potential non-believers believe.

 

[Agoxlea]

No question. A better way to put that might be that by and large the bigtime BYU haters here are also anti-LDS.

I don't think a majority of the non-lds or former lds people here are "anti-lds". They just might be anti people like you with a self rightous superiority complex. That's just a guess, but I have no problem with the lds church, but can't stand the vocal minority of lds people that act like that.