jope
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sloan produced the #1 offense in the NBA with offensive talent similar to this year's team.
remember when our offense looked like this?
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sloan produced the #1 offense in the NBA with offensive talent similar to this year's team.
NAOS
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sacrilege to not mention Johnson directly.
jope
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To elaborate, yes he had deron and boozer, two above average offensive players on that #1 team. other than that, 3 of the top 8 rotation guys were guys who scored almost exclusively on fast breaks or set plays (AK47, harpring, brewer), and the others were far from "offensive powerhouse" guys -- millsap could only rebound at that point, okur was actually a low efficiency shooter (44% fga),and Korver was basically the only outside threat.
NAOS
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To me it seems like Quin believes you can import all the philosophy from 'Space-and-Pace' but simply slow it down and it'll still work. I think this is an open question, and one that's likely to be answered in the negative. Teams have had several seasons to adjust to Space-and-Pace, and a slowed down version is just an easier version to defend.
A slow pace can work to your advantage but we aren't making it work for us. There's not enough off-ball action.
A slow pace can work to your advantage but we aren't making it work for us. There's not enough off-ball action.
So your saying your argument sucks?
Calling D-Will above average is laughable too (same with Boozer but to a lesser degree). D-Will was elite.
And we now live in a world where Okur was low efficiency? What? Okur's best season with the Jazz he averaged 17 points on 12 shots a game. Dude got to the FT line and the dude nailed his 3's at a high percentage with volume.
Okur's best full season with the Jazz he had a 60% true shooting percentage, which is insanely high.
jope
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what do you mean "elite"? that season, PER ranked him at #27, VORP puts him at #31, TS% puts him at #40, he didnt make the all-star team. yes he was a great, great player, but he was never elite.
and you are proving my point, sloan's system maximized talent. we had the best offense in the NBA with AK47, brewer, baby millsap, and matt harpring's corpse all getting major minutes. The top end was a little higher than our talent level on this team, but this team is much more rounded out with scoring talent, yet performs with inferiority offensively.
jope
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Okur was #120 in the league in TS%. maybe low efficiency was harsh, "average" is more appropriate.
You put Quin Snyder in Sloan's shoes with Dwill/Okur/Boozer you can create a team that gets buckets with any offensive system because of how talented those 3 are at scoring, spacing, and playmaking.
I'd argue Quin would do better because he wouldnt waste AK's talents away.
I'd argue Quin would do better because he wouldnt waste AK's talents away.
He is 120th all time in the NBA. That is above average.