What's new
By:

Ric Bucher reporting Jazz have signed Randy Foye to a 1-year deal

Thee jazz fan said:
Hayward along with Favors is the franchise, and you want to bench him? Hayward and Favors need to have as much court time together as possible.

Burks was a rookie who didn't have the benefit of summer league or a real training camp and only two preseason games. I'm guessing he wasn't ready to play big minutes, but as time went on he earned more and more time, and often finished games. Your acting as though this signing means Burks will never get off the bench. My point is if Burks shows he's worthy of extra playing time or starting, then Burks will get his regardless of this signing.


agree
Click to expand...

Let me introduce you to ty corbin.

You say if a player deserves minutes he will get them. Remember when favors was our best player and the most likely candidate to be our franchise player? Then remember how favors would get less than 20 minutes per game? Remember when tinsley was outplaying watson, but corbin kept playing watson ahead of tinsley cause watson was more experienced in the jazz system? And again remember when corbin was playing bell (one of the worst players in the league) ahead of burks? I dont care if burks was a raw rookie with no training camp, he was still the better option than bell.
 
Good God if Foye was the starting SG I think I'd puke out my liver.
Click to expand...
Putting aside the fact that we fans would like to give our young players playing time, who is better, Foye or Burks? Foye or Hayward? (not talking about potential, talking about right now) Unfortunately the Jazz have about nine players that are worthy of starting minutes on a .500 team. The hard part is going to be determining which of them will -with more time- get the Jazz to a .660 team.
 
cctrackstar said:
Putting aside the fact that we fans would like to give our young players playing time, who is better, Foye or Burks? Foye or Hayward? (not talking about potential, talking about right now) Unfortunately the Jazz have about nine players that are worthy of starting minutes on a .500 team. The hard part is going to be determining which of them will -with more time- get the Jazz to a .660 team.
Click to expand...

To me this is an easy issue? Assuming burks, hayward, and foye are all equal and all deserve playing time, you have to play the guys that are under contract for the next few years and are a bigger part of the jazz future. Also you have to play the guys that have potential to improve ALOT. So with foye you have him for 1 year and he has been in the league for long enough that you know what you have.

Easy answer. play burks and hayward majority of minutes.
Now lets see if corbin can figure that out..... I know alot of people on jazzfanz (including me) wanted to see the big lineup (millsap, favors, big al) all year long and corbin didn't use it until the very end of the season. Same with the burks vs bell issue. same with the tinsley vs watson issue. So i dont have alot of confidence in him making the right decision based off his history. (granted his history is a very small sample size.)
 
I have to think the Jazz are going to move Earl now; Earl's kissing up is a sign that he's worried about that, as well. They wouldn't have resigned Tinsley I think if they had plans to add another potential PG. How they do it is the question? But obviously as a piece with another player, I think, like Al, Sap, or even Kanter.
 
HELLO CHAMPIONSHIP!!! With all cynicism aside, I actually like the move. Foye is a great pick up who can play both positions. I'm pretty sure it's a safe bet that Mo Williams won't play all 82 games. I think he's great insurance and he can light it up from three. We may not have any all stars, but this could be the deepest Jazz team of all time.
 
I think this definately opens the door for Watson to get traded. I could see him going to the Bulls for a 2nd Round Pick as they need depth until Rose is back. I believe they lost CJ Watson as well so a Vet to hold down the fort is what they may want. I also think we seen enough of our Summer League PG's to have options for a 3rd PG and with Foye/Burks they can play spot minutes if needed and if Williams/Tinsley miss any games.

We should be able to throw out quite a few different lineups so it will be interesting to see how Corbin handles it.

To me, we should have a SOLID 10 man rotation will get the minutes. 240 Minutes to divide up between those 10 doesn't give time for certian players that I would like to see get minutes such as Favors/Burks/Hayward. The only way this happens is if Foye/Burks plays some PG minutes which I can't see happening that much.
 
Thee jazz fan said:
He's got to be a better sg then Fisher was right?:cool:
Click to expand...

At least Fish had some veteran leadership and intangibles. I suppose we needed a cheap veteran to back-up Burks or Hayward, so this move was made. Hard to get excited about another back-up scrub being added to the roster.
 
Chad Feldheimer said:
Good price on Foye if they got him for 2.5. Hello this year's version of Josh Howard.
Click to expand...
Foye probably wanted a long-term deal and couldn't find any opportunities. This is what's going to happen under the new CBA. You'll always have guys getting the MAX and bigs being overpaid. But the mid-level players are going to end up with fewer opportunties. Given the choice between a guy at $4-$5M and a rookie to fill out a roster, teams near the tax threshold will take the rookie.

So Foye likely decided his best bet was to go with a 1-yr contract, then see what the market is like next year. No, he's not going to put Utah over the top. But he adds a dimension that neither Watson nor Tinsley have (outside shooting). And he's a decent insurance policy in case of injury.

We're all fretting about PT by assuming all players will be playing in all 82 games. That simply isn't going to happen. The Jazz were remarkably durable last season with Hayward and Kanter playing in all 66 games and four others playing in at least 60. That generally doesn't happen. Most teams have at least one guy go down with a major injury and/or several players missing games here and there. Take away one of the bigs or one of the wings for an extended period of time and there's no problem with playing time.

I don't know what happens with Marvin, Hayward and Alec in terms of starting jobs. I suspect Hayward starts at SG and Marvin at SF. Or perhaps Hayward and Burks start and Marvin comes off the bench. In any case, Burks played 15 mins/per last season. Bump him up to 25 and he'll be ok with that. Gordon played 30, so leave him in the 28-30 range.So if all players are healthy, that works out to Hayward 30, Marvin 25, Burks 25, Foye 16. Matchups or foul trouble may cause some to have their mins bumped up/down accordingly. And if someone is out, then you extend the mins. for the other three and only have to rely on Carroll or Murphy for 5-10 (or Mo at SG for 5 and play Watson/Tinsley a little more at PG).

What this does mean is it's highly unlikely Millsap gets any time at SF. But if all are healthy, you have the same situation at the bigs. Everyone gets shorted a few mins per, until a player misses a game due to injury.


We've seen the Jazz in past seasons have to rely on guys like Francisco Elson, Othyus Jeffers, etc. when injuries have taken out starters. This squad, as currently constituted, can withstand the loss of a starter at ANY position without a huge drop-off.
 
You must log in or register to reply here.

Share this page
Back
Top