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Ferguson_Mellochill said:
If you replace Kessler with Flip, there'd be enough defensive length to help compensate for Flip's lack of defensive presence, since Hendricks and Ace are secondary rim protectors. Then you'd add Flip's playmaking and shooting on offense. The lane would be open for Ace to go to work.
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I'm also betting that Flip will improve a little bit on defense.
 
I didn't find Locke's glazing that convincing. It's not like Cody is the first ever prospect to ever have a long wing span. There's so much emphasis on his brother and his theoretical beefy self, but not much about his actual basketball skill.
 
KqWIN said:
I didn't find Locke's glazing that convincing. It's not like Cody is the first ever prospect to ever have a long wing span. There's so much emphasis on his brother and his theoretical beefy self, but not much about his actual basketball skill.
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Yeah I agree here. I think he's reaching (a tad) and just trying to find content to talk about to some extent.
 
bigmike said:
Yeah I agree here. I think he's reaching (a tad) and just trying to find content to talk about to some extent.
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I think that's fine I don't disagree with everything he said, but the "Jalen is big so he will also be big" is doing so much heaving lifting whereas "he needs to be able to shoot and dribble" can't just be an afterthought.

One point I did agree with Locke on is that his motor needs to be higher and that's kind of inexcusable regardless of his current frame. What I didn't agree with is that he answered those questions about doing things besides scoring, specifically his rebounds. It's great that he had 8 rebounds in a single SL game, but as a whole his rebounding volume was not that great over SL. To his credit, his steals were pretty good, but steals is one of the least sticky numbers and does not have much carryover from SL to the NBA.
 
  1. Walker Kessler
  2. Kyle Filipowski
  3. Ace Bailey - I'm excited about Bailey. He's not as sure a thing as Kessler or Flip who have proven themselves on the court, so until he does so..
  4. Brice Sensabaugh - Best shooter of the bunch. Saw a better effort on D during summer camp, so reason for hope there.
  5. Isaiah Collier - Tough call between Collier and Clayton. Went with Collier because I'm excited about his vision / passing, which Clayton doesn't have to the same degree. Gotta learn to shoot. Give him another year.
  6. Walter Clayton Jr - Great prospect. Should be great having these two swapping time. PG will be a strength going forward I think.
  7. Taylor Hendricks - Not as high on him as some I've seen. I don't remember him coming anywhere near to dominating anything before he got injured, and with a year's layoff? Potential is there.
  8. Keyonte George - Not. a. fan. Whiney little *****.
  9. Cody Williams - Summer league did not convince me. Hope I'm wrong.
  10. John Tonje?? – No idea
 
Domino said:
I believe that Key has the tools to become a capable defender and an elite shot maker I’ve been a keynote homer since he got drafted though my profile picture hasn’t changed since his rookie year of summer league lol


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That’s even worse. He has the tools but has chosen to be lazy af and not give a damn. The guy is so overrated and considered by so many on this board.
 
Very rarely does the “sucks at defense but has the tools for defense” ever get much better. Yes defensive ability is tied to length and athleticism, but it’s also a skill like everything else.
 
Key is actually a player I learned something from draft wise. I like him during the draft. I thought he could be more of primary and that his off the dribble jumper was a potential premium skill. All of that was actually right. But I was too quick to dismiss his defensive concerns and a big reason why I did that was because I thought he’d play point and have positional size and it would work out because he’s a fiery competitor ….turns out it doesn’t matter if you don’t have the IQ, skill, and instincts to play defense.

Also, that archetype is straight up in the grave. There’s no use to drafting one, you can a really good one for free on the trade market.
 
Miggs said:
That’s even worse. He has the tools but has chosen to be lazy af and not give a damn. The guy is so overrated and considered by so many on this board.
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The tanking kind of skews everything with this team.
Having the tools is good no matter what. Being lazy and not giving a damn is bad but may be a product of the team he is playing for literally trying to lose each game. That kind of culture can have a negative impact on the mentality of a player.

I bet Washington and Charlotte fans (and the philly fans during the process) do a lot of criticizing their players for laziness and bad attitudes as well. And I think we have been tanking harder and more intentionally than any other team the last few years. We are purposely underachieving like crazy.

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KqWIN said:
Very rarely does the “sucks at defense but has the tools for defense” ever get much better. Yes defensive ability is tied to length and athleticism, but it’s also a skill like everything else.
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I do think it likely gets better with more experience/maturity, better schemes/coaching, and better culture though.

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Miggs said:
That’s even worse. He has the tools but has chosen to be lazy af and not give a damn. The guy is so overrated and considered by so many on this board.
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I think they are just trying to latch onto the dream that we found our DM replacement and he will break out any day now! Watch, it's gonna happen. And.....................NOW! Nope. Ok. And........................................................................................................................NOW!

Huh, not yet I guess.

But you hit the nail on the head.
 
KqWIN said:
Very rarely does the “sucks at defense but has the tools for defense” ever get much better. Yes defensive ability is tied to length and athleticism, but it’s also a skill like everything else.
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Yep, just look at DM. If he gave the same effort on defense he does on offense he would be in the fringe discussion for GOAT, but he doesn't, so he isn't, and he will go down as one of the best scorers the game has seen, but won't win anything with it as a result.
 
LogGrad98 said:
Yep, just look at DM. If he gave the same effort on defense he does on offense he would be in the fringe discussion for GOAT, but he doesn't, so he isn't, and he will go down as one of the best scorers the game has seen, but won't win anything with it as a result.
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DM is also a little different where he was actually a good defender once upon a time. Coming into the league he was a defensive prospect. In his case, it actually does come down to how much effort he's willing to put in. He has the skill, ability, talent, IQ ect to be a good defender. Key has never been a good defender and has probably never been asked to play defense in his life. So beyond effort, he needs hard skills/abilities to develop as well.
 
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