Yes Hayward reportedly made that statement it's just strange. Hayward also likes to pass but obviously he likes scoring more i.e. prefers Rubio to give him easy baskets.
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Rumors were than he wanted to play with a pass first PG. Rubio is a pass first PG who helps sets up his teammates. He obviously doesnt spread the floor with shooting as well as Hill but he does pass the ball much better and is a better defender.
I may have underestimated how much Hayward has transitioned from a pass happy all round wing to a scorer this past year. It's what got him to become an All Stars.
If that report is true that Gordon wants a pass-first PG, isn't this a dig on Hill, Mack and Exum?
We all know they are not pass-first PG but to point it out is just brutal.
By the way, the Jazz do have a pass-first PG in Neto.
Too bad he gets limited minutes during games
Mack!
We all know they are not pass-first PG but to point it out is just brutal.
By the way, the Jazz do have a pass-first PG in Neto.
Too bad he gets limited minutes during games
Mack!
Spinoza
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Can't tell if you're being serious. A PG who looks for his own shot first against a PG who not only can get you open looks but actively tries to make it happen. It should be obvious why any player would prefer playing with a playmaker like Rubio.
A PG who can space the floor/score gets you open in a different way
Its hard to say which is more effective until we see Rubio in the offense. When Hill was at his best and the team was healthy we were a top 10 offensive team.
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Jack Strop
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Maybe Hayward knew Hill had turned down that 4yr/$80m-ish offer from Utah and was being unreasonable. They're friends, but at some point you have to say, "dude, WTF?" Lindsey probably was very open with Gordon and discussed the next set of options.
I don't think DL would discuss all roster moves with Gordon, but you certainly get opinions to make sure players are on board. Dennis likely asked Gobert about Rubio too.
Jack Strop
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This "pass-first" talk is just crap. A lot of the offense runs through Hayward. We're not back in the 80's with Stockton/Malone. And the best PG in that era (with apologies to Stockton) was Magic Johnson. Magic was a PG who did everything. He wasn't pass-first, but his scoring sure opened up everything for his teammates.If that report is true that Gordon wants a pass-first PG, isn't this a dig on Hill, Mack and Exum?
We all know they are not pass-first PG but to point it out is just brutal.
By the way, the Jazz do have a pass-first PG in Neto.
Too bad he gets limited minutes during games
The ideal PG in today's era is someone who can pass, penetrate and hit the 3. And defend on the other end. Hill wasn't flashy, but he ticked off all the boxes. The only things he lacked were speed and health. I actually do feel sorry for him because he's been underappreciated and underpaid his whole career.
We'll miss his 3PT shooting. But Quin will adapt the offense to fit Rubio's strengths. My guess is that IF Hayward returns, Gordon won't have to initiate the offense as much. Hayward's scoring will increase, but his assists will drop.
I'll agree with you about Neto over Mack. But it really should have been Exum over Mack. Neto is a 3rd-stringer. That's all he'll ever be. He's just not that good.
zyzz
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Not sure if this has been posted, but I found this in the Twolves' subreddit...they really miss him.
https://streamable.com/jphm7
https://streamable.com/jphm7
TheStormofWar
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So Ricky flew all the way from Spain to San Diego to help pitch Hayward, then he turns around and take another flight to go to the SL game?
Dude knows how to quickly ingratiate himself with the fans and team, doesn't he?
Dude knows how to quickly ingratiate himself with the fans and team, doesn't he?
416Klawzz
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Read my response carefully, I said if Gordon doesn't sign with us
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