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I just want him to play more like Kyle Korver and less like Scott Padgett. Eliminate the pump fakes, minimize putting it on the floor, and just let it fly.
And its weird when you see him go up without hesitation it goes in more. He also is big so for a guy to close hard and actually block the shot it is really hard to do without fouling. He can get his non-three shots through post ups. I don't mind a pump fake into a straight line drive but I need it to be like 4 threes to every pump fake and drive.
 
Why are people dead set on trading jc or bogey? It should be ingles
Because:
-Bogey is pretty one-dimensional
-JC actually causes the Jazz to lose games with his wild Chuck-A-Rama on top of that he is also one-dimensional. That dimension is more useful on a team with a **** bench-unit like when he got here. That is not the case anymore.
 
trading JC can get us a really really good piece in return, problem is it's not gonna happen. jazz has always been a methodological team, we stick with what works. if it doesn't work we still stick to it lol. JC changes that, he's unpredictable and it balances the offense. that's why you pair him with Mike or joe, to restore order, then start chaos again. that's why our 2nd unit is so much fun to watch. he brings stuff you don't see on stat sheets. last year he was getting double teamed and was shooting over PG. can't say the same with bogey. sure he's not making all his 3s but theres more to just 3 pt shooting.
 
Why are people dead set on trading jc or bogey? It should be ingles

Because of skills and fits. Ingles isn't the most prolific scorer of the 3, but is the one that can contribute on the most different ways and fit the better/be the less expendable post trade in nearly any trade scenario, if not his game being helped by its results (and for that the one problably the easier to acomodate after a trade that the team looked after a guy that could that a role as big as Conley on offense). Bogey can't make a good pass for his life (like, his playmaking ain't really convincing, but his passing is really worse than his rebounding), his dribble is turnover prone, and on rebounding and defense overall he's like as bad or worse even being stronger, faster, more athletic, on a larger body frame in identical height compared to Joe. And JC, for the good and the bad is JC madness, he buys into his role and works hard (now even harder on d, even if his works hard doesn't translate into a greater consistency of quality of play on that end), but his role is what it is, score, plain and simple. And for as good as he may be for his charisma, good locker room vibe morale boost, in game momentum swing and crowd agitator, that's a league where scoring bench guards with decent but streaky 3 point shots and questionable overall efficiency and defense are much easier to find (like nearly all over the place, as if it grows on trees or fall from the skies) than swiss arm knife wings with great 3 point shooting and game style suited to keep effective (of course in gradually decreasing usage and role) till way in his late 30ies (even if his defense not).

Of course if it came down to him needing to be included on a trade for the final piece to go all in for the title you would still move Joe, even if looking at it thinking "we won, but at what cost ?" (as maybe to a lesser extent due to less time with us would be the feeling trading Clarkson), but in terms of making sense to trade, Bogey or JC should be some more interesting in terms of what we lose and what we keep
 
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Let us all remember one thing for those that say “let’s trade JC he’s going to get us a great player”

Wait for the mic drop moment.


































JC netted the cavs Ded X
 
Let us all remember one thing for those that say “let’s trade JC he’s going to get us a great player”

Wait for the mic drop moment.


































JC netted the cavs Ded X
He has definitely improved his value since then. Specifically when he was the 6th man of the year last year. But, I dont think he will net us all that much, at least as much as some people here think.
 
I would really just prefer JC take better shots than trade him or whatever. His energy, ballhandling, and intangibles off the court are valuable. I just cannot wrap my head around about half the shots he takes (the off-balance, 0-pass/early shot clock/contested ones).
 
The silly thing about the discussions about JC is the entire sell low mentality. The guy will come around. He attracts a lot of attention on the court and is capable of big scoring outbursts. He has shown a bit more willingness to pass this year and his defense is a step higher than it was last year. His shot will come around. He might be one who is struggling more than others adjusting to the new ball. Once he gets it his shooting will return to the mean and he will be more than just the energy guy. And by the way, that energy is also needed. It's way better to let him figure it out, then see what he provides, and at the very least let his stock rise some before selling him off.
 
He has definitely improved his value since then. Specifically when he was the 6th man of the year last year. But, I dont think he will net us all that much, at least as much as some people here think.
That’s basically what I’m saying. He’s more valuable to the team in the rotation then as a trade piece
 
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