Rudy Gobert - 2015/2016 Defensive Player Of The Year Push

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  1. Qman

    Qman Well-Known Member

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    I think Millsap (Poor Man's Ron Artest) is a more effective defender than Carroll. Though Carroll is a better shooter.
     
  2. zman1527

    zman1527 Well-Known Member

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    I think lil Sap could be or is already close to Bruce Bowen type player? He has to be more committed to just sitting in the corner and shooting the 3 ball.
     
  3. Qman

    Qman Well-Known Member

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    Umm no.

    https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/c/carrode01.html

    Defensive Win Shares 2.1
    Defensive Adjusted plus/minus 0.7


    For reference

    Gobert
    DWS 2.2 in far less minutes
    DPM 6.2

    Anthony Davis
    DWS 2.6
    DPM 2.2

    DeAndre Jordan
    DWS 3.6
    DPM 3.0

    Based on my quick look DeAndre Jordan should win.
     
  4. Ellis269

    Ellis269 Well-Known Member

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    So options are. . .

    C: Rudy Gobert - Utah
    C: Marc Gasol - Memphis
    C: DeAndre Jordan - LA Clippers
    PF: Serge Ibaka - Oklahoma
    PF: Draymond Green - Golden State
    PF: Anthony Davis - New Orleans
    SG: Jimmy Butler - Chicago

    Even if you include Hassan Whiteside, every single one of those players (except Gobert and Davis) would be in the playoffs right now. . . astonishing what Gobert has been able to do this year in his development. Add an offensive game and he'll be the top center in the league. He probably won't win the DPOY award, but he should be in the conversation.
     
  5. Saint Cy of JFC

    Saint Cy of JFC Well-Known Member

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    I bet Green gets it.
     
  6. dong2ha

    dong2ha Premium Jazz Fan Contributor

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    jordan is balling lately without griffin. he might have a chance too


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  7. spycam1

    spycam1 Well-Known Member

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    Exum one day?
     
  8. QuinSnydersHair

    QuinSnydersHair Well-Known Member

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    Lebron. No one's mentioned Lebron. Which is poor form.
     
  9. b_line

    b_line Well-Known Member

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    He is not the defending splayed he used to be
     
  10. fishonjazz

    fishonjazz Well-Known Member Contributor 2019 Award Winner 2018 Award Winner

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    As much as we all hate cp3, he is considered a really good defender.
    Maybe he takes that last spot.

    Maybe conley
     
  11. NPC D4617

    NPC D4617 Well-Known Member

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    Normally I'd agree. I think he is one of the best defenders of all time, but it does seem like his defense has dropped off a little. I think he's probably still capable of it when he wants to, but he is getting older and has to conserve his energy a little. So it's not on display as much as it use to be. The guy just has way too much responsibility on the court as it is.

    But ya, you are right. He probably can take one of those spot on the all defensive team. I wouldn't give him defensive player of the year award though.
     
  12. Thee jazz fan

    Thee jazz fan Well-Known Member

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    I think Jordan is a lock this year top 5 shot blocker one if the top post defenders and top rebounder this year
     
  13. spycam1

    spycam1 Well-Known Member

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    Leonard should make one of the defensive teams.

    Also, Mike Conley probably deserves the PG spot.
     
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  14. Siro

    Siro Well-Known Member Contributor 2018 Award Winner

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    I was watching LMU vs Pepperdine just now, and a player had an amazing block, prompting the announcer to say "DID HE JUST PULL A GOBERT??".

    I can't believe how quickly Gobert's reputation has spread.
     
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  15. silesian

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    Here are the top 15 in DRPM this year, probably these players take home most of the first and second team all-defense.

    1 Andrew Bogut, C
    2 DeMarcus Cousins, C
    3 Tim Duncan, PF
    4 Tony Allen, SF
    5 Jusuf Nurkic, C
    6 Draymond Green, SF
    7 Hassan Whiteside, C
    8 Serge Ibaka, PF
    9 Khris Middleton, SG
    10 Kawhi Leonard, SF
    11 Andre Roberson, SG
    12 Anthony Davis, PF
    13 Cody Zeller, PF
    14 Tyson Chandler, C
    15 Rudy Gobert, C

    Comments: Duncan, amazingly still bringing it. Surprised by Zeller and Robertson on this list.
    Bogut: His D is still underrated because of lack of flash. He's high IQ, like Duncan.
    Surprised by absence of Noah and Hibbert
    More salivation for those of you yearning for Middleton.

    My guess is Cousins and Chandler for all defense Center. Next year it goes to Gobert and Whiteside.

    Thoughts?
     
  16. QuinSnydersHair

    QuinSnydersHair Well-Known Member

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    Cousins? Really???
     
  17. NPC D4617

    NPC D4617 Well-Known Member

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    That list sucks
     
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  18. Fabtrey

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    for gobert to win DPOY, we first need to make the playoffs. wins and losses do matter. voters will always favor a player from a winning team.
     
  19. Catchall

    Catchall Well-Known Member 2019 Prediction Contest Winner

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    Gobert averaging 13/11/4blk in his last 3 games.
     
  20. Fabtrey

    Fabtrey Well-Known Member

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    i doubt he will win this year. but next year? why not? make the playoffs, and make noise. and let the whole world know the best center is playing for utah friggin jazz. it's our time
     

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