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Scouting report on Tibor Pleiss

So a backup big costing $3M/per has some warts? No ****, Sherlock. Is this guy expecting Pleiss to be all-NBA? I'm expecting ZERO out of Tibor. If he can walk and chew gum at the same time, that's about it for this season. He'll spend the year working with the developmental staff and get some garbage time minutes. I think Favors will continue to slide over to the 5 when Gobert comes out and Booker and Lyles will split the remaining minutes at PF.

Gobert 33, Favors 15
Favors 18, Booker 20, Lyles 10

Those minutes could change depending on how many Rudy plays at PG. :)
 
Stifle Tower said:
So a backup big costing $3M/per has some warts? No ****, Sherlock. Is this guy expecting Pleiss to be all-NBA? I'm expecting ZERO out of Tibor. If he can walk and chew gum at the same time, that's about it for this season. He'll spend the year working with the developmental staff and get some garbage time minutes. I think Favors will continue to slide over to the 5 when Gobert comes out and Booker and Lyles will split the remaining minutes at PF.

Gobert 33, Favors 15
Favors 18, Booker 20, Lyles 10

Those minutes could change depending on how many Rudy plays at PG. :)
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That looks like a solid rotation. I could see Tibor getting minutes this year just to get some experience. I don't think either Rudy or Derrick gets much more than 30 tbh. And I can see Booker/Lyles switching roles and minutes by the end of the year. Jingles was getting minutes early before he really even deserved them, and it paid off by having him be a solid contributor down the stretch. As long as Pleiss isn't hurting the team when he's out there, I see him getting between 4-6 minutes per night.

Gobert 30, Favors 12, Pleiss 6
Favors 18, Booker 18, Lyles 12
 
Stifle Tower said:
So a backup big costing $3M/per has some warts? No ****, Sherlock. Is this guy expecting Pleiss to be all-NBA? I'm expecting ZERO out of Tibor. If he can walk and chew gum at the same time, that's about it for this season. He'll spend the year working with the developmental staff and get some garbage time minutes. I think Favors will continue to slide over to the 5 when Gobert comes out and Booker and Lyles will split the remaining minutes at PF.

Gobert 33, Favors 15
Favors 18, Booker 20, Lyles 10

Those minutes could change depending on how many Rudy plays at PG. :)
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Yeah, I mean, why even bother writing articles about anything.
 
framer said:
We will never have him playing the high post against Marc Gasol. We have two other players to do that. How many bench Centers are triple threats from long distance? How many Euro league Centers are? That is why having him cheat up on the outside p@r was so baffling. Maybe I'm just delusionally happy with Quinn, but I get the feeling that there are at least a few of his deficiencies that can be attributed to the poor manner in which he was used. It will also be fun to see Quinn work with the starters that we intend to finish the year with from the very start, with no more trying to play people to increase trade value. I have a feeling this will be a very good start to solving our anemic offense woes.

I guess that I am an ugly American, because whenever I see FIFA ball with NBA players I cringe in how misused they are. I watched Turkey's guards keep shooting contested midranges and not looking for Kanter. If Kanter is going to be on the court, you should probably toss it inside some. You take the hit on defense either way. When the International teams finally say "screw it!" and turn the stars loose, they do well. Kiri for Russia and Gobert for France. Generally however, these studs generally have to defer to the 38 year old 6'2" greybeard who has been the "heart and soul" of his sucky team for two decades. Screw that, feed your studs!
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That's a very, very skewed perception of European basketball in all honesty. That Turkey team with Kanter was incredibly poorly coached. There's a ton of European teams who are carried by their studs-- and it's widely assumed that a European coach is going to be following up Coach Pop's tenure at the Spurs.

100% though-- Barça's coach used Pleiss inappropriately. Still, apart from turning Tomic's career around, their coach and their team doesn't really have anything to brag about over the last 5 years. Always brimming with talent, zero championships.
 
To those who complain re: his mechanics, I implore you to see how many >7 footers you can find that shoot >80% from the charity stripe in multiple seasons. To me, that's MUCH more important than him being able to hit a 8-footer. If he fills a Chandler role, then jump-shots won't be in his repertoire. Team's won't always hack him because they know he can punish them at the free-throw line.

Superb value for 3 mill, and he serves to be a much more cohesive fit for a backup-5 than Enes. Still fine with the trade.
 
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dalamon said:
That's a very, very skewed perception of European basketball in all honesty. That Turkey team with Kanter was incredibly poorly coached. There's a ton of European teams who are carried by their studs-- and it's widely assumed that a European coach is going to be following up Coach Pop's tenure at the Spurs.

100% though-- Barça's coach used Pleiss inappropriately. Still, apart from turning Tomic's career around, their coach and their team doesn't really have anything to brag about over the last 5 years. Always brimming with talent, zero championships.
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I'll be honest, I only follow cup and Olympic basketball internationally. I also explained my ugly Americanism when it comes to basketball. American cup and Olympic basketball kind of sucked after the original couple of "Dream Teams" so there is that. But, man that Turkey team sucked. . .
 
Am I the only one expecting Pleiss to be little more than a poster factory?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RYHPa6kQeyY
 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yWjCq6gH7iA

These posts probably deserves its own thread for in season bumping.
 
franklin said:
Am I the only one expecting Pleiss to be little more than a poster factory?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RYHPa6kQeyY
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Offensive foul
 
Joe Bagadonuts said:
Pleiss probably would have gotten the call if he'd kept his feet in position rather than stumbling backward. At least in the NBA officials seem to see it differently if the feet remain planted.
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That's standard low post play. Fish is just trying to be controversial. Allowing that deep of post position in the first place makes that nearly undefendable.

Pleiss is a $3 million dollar, 26 year old big. It's pretty evident what his value will be.
 
franklin said:
That's standard low post play. Fish is just trying to be controversial. Allowing that deep of post position in the first place makes that nearly undefendable.

Pleiss is a $3 million dollar, 26 year old big. It's pretty evident what his value will be.
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$3 million?
 
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