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Screw it, a trade thread, with my poll...no, not that pole

Yeah, i realized your first few statements but just didn't understand why the holds were in place. In Milwaukee's case, if we did this Ilyasova deal, and Delfino and Brown signed elsewhere, wouldn't those holds come off? Do holds remain on even after the player's involved sign with another team?

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Yeah, i realized your first few statements but just didn't understand why the holds were in place. In Milwaukee's case, if we did this Ilyasova deal, and Delfino and Brown signed elsewhere, wouldn't those holds come off? Do holds remain on even after the player's involved sign with another team?

Delfino and Brown would have to sign somewhere else first, and of course before Ilyasova chose another option. And the Jazz would have to pay Ilyasova probably close to 9 million, since the league looks at what a team's total salary is after the proposed trade rather than before to determine if it's legal. A team can't be over the cap AFTER the trade is completed.

One thing I'm not fully sure on is whether a team can receive the signing exceptions once they get near the cap. A team doesn't have the MLE and Bi-annual exception if they're under the cap. If it brushes the cap during the signing period, I don't think they get the MLE at that point. So to do this deal, Milwaukee would have to get under the cap by renouncing or letting their free agents sign elsewhere, and then they'd have no money to sign anyone. They would only be able to sign players to minimum deals. I don't think they would do that to get Al Jefferson.
 
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Delfino and Brown would have to sign somewhere else first, and of course before Ilyasova chose another option. And the Jazz would have to pay Ilyasova probably close to 9 million, since the league looks at what a team's total salary is after the proposed trade rather than before to determine if it's legal. A team can't be over the cap AFTER the trade is completed.

One thing I'm not fully sure on is whether a team can receive the signing exceptions once they get near the cap. A team doesn't have the MLE and Bi-annual exception if they're over the cap. If it brushes the cap during the signing period, I don't think they get the MLE at that point. So to do this deal, Milwaukee would have to get under the cap by renouncing or letting their free agents sign elsewhere, and then they'd have no money to sign anyone. They would only be able to sign players to minimum deals. I don't think they would do that to get Al Jefferson.


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If the CBA allows it, and the Bucks were willing, would you do a S&T of Ilyasova for Jefferson, Ilyasova being the person signed of course, at, let's say in this hypothetical, 8M per year.

Pros: We lose Jefferson. We retain depth up front. We gain a stretch 4. We get a guy who can play some 3. We get a guy who can play some defense. We save about 4M this year.
Cons: We lose a center, though imo, it's not a huge loss with Favors and Kanter on board. We lock up long-term money, thus making next summer's spending spree, tougher.

You forgot the fact that Ilyasova and Kanter can become buddies which would make his stay at Salt Lake a bit easier (as an International player).

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Let me be clear, I'd rather have Mbah a Moute.
Ilyasova is probably too much money, dunno. I make errors around here in my desperation to be rid of Jefferson.
 
I think the Jazz still like Jefferson's 19/10/1.7, and they see him as being in his prime. If they move him, I think they're looking for more back than Ilyasova, or else they would have moved him already.
 
Does anyone on JF watch NBA? Did anyone watch Kanter's Euro showing? Only on JF would Ilyasova be idolized like George Gervin.
 
I think the Jazz still like Jefferson's 19/10/1.7, and they see him as being in his prime. If they move him, I think they're looking for more back than Ilyasova, or else they would have moved him already.

This is true.

I don't think Jazzfanz understand that O Connor doesnt hate Al like we do. He believes he has much more value than anyone here thinks he does.


Everyone here is ready to trade him for a mid first round pick, forgetting that we paid much more for him than that, and the deal was heralded around the league as a steal.
 
I'd admit I know nothing about this guy. But how is Ilyasova at 8m + a year that much better than say AK at 3-4M on a shorter deal?
 
I'd admit I know nothing about this guy. But how is Ilyasova at 8m + a year that much better than say AK at 3-4M on a shorter deal?

Besides the point that AK at 3-4M is a pipe dream, he's a whiny bitch who's the antithesis of what you want around young, impressionable, talented NBA players who need to be the work ethic it takes to excel.
 
Besides the point that AK at 3-4M is a pipe dream, he's a whiny bitch who's the antithesis of what you want around young, impressionable, talented NBA players who need to be the work ethic it takes to excel.

Pipe dream? Why? He said he would take less to sign with the Jazz again. Who is going to give him mid-level or more?
 
Are you comparing Uganda to the US of A? Bro?

Calm down bro, I was just giving Cy an example. It can be any country. Heck - it can even be Japan.

Like Bill Murray and Scarlett Johanson in 'Lost in Translation'. Pretty good rom/com movie by the way if you haven't yet seen it.
 
Calm down bro, I was just giving Cy an example. It can be any country. Heck - it can even be Japan.

Like Bill Murray and Scarlett Johanson in 'Lost in Translation'. Pretty good rom/com movie by the way if you haven't yet seen it.

I did, with the boom mics or whatever they are in just about every shot somehow. I'm not even kidding.
 
I did, with the boom mics or whatever they are in just about every shot somehow. I'm not even kidding.

Wow... really?!?! Didn't notice that!!! Yes... I was looking at something else that were a bit more enticing - "assets".

I'll keep an eye out for the boom mics next time. :)
 
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