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Should Corbin run more plays for the bigs?

Should we run more plays for the bigs?

  • Run more plays for the bigs & kick Corbin in the nuts

    Votes: 13 100.0%

  • Run the sam amount Corbin deserves coach of the year

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Total voters
    13
Twin Towers

Twin Towers

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Should Corbin run more plays for the bigs?


Anyone else tired of seeing every play ran for the wing players while Kanter and Favors rarely get set up in the post. Kanter and Favors standing near the 3 point line and away from hoop the majority of the teams offense?
Is this eastern ball really helping develop any kind of chemistry or develop our bigs in any way?

And my horrible spelling could be fixed also. lol
 
Watching Enes in the post makes my eyes burn. I don't want anything ran for him. Favors needs 2-3 more shots per game. His usage% is above 20% so nothing drastic needs to change. I'd like to see all 3 of these shots taken away from Hayward.

The Jazz have been running a more dynamic offense the last 2-3 games, and there's been less of the side pnr every. single. play. I've been pretty happy with the overall offensive growth we've been seeing.
 
franklin said:
Watching Enes in the post makes my eyes burn. I don't want anything ran for him. Favors needs 2-3 more shots per game. His usage% is above 20% so nothing drastic needs to change. I'd like to see all 3 of these shots taken away from Hayward.

The Jazz have been running a more dynamic offense the last 2-3 games, and there's been less of the side pnr every. single. play. I've been pretty happy with the overall offensive growth we've been seeing.
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I would rather watch Kanter in the post than watch these idiots run in circles that lead to a fadeaway jumper.
 
I don't understand why Favor's doesn't get used in PNRolls more often. Our offense looks like "pass the ball around to anyone who is brave enough to chuck it". Trey is the only one who tries to get the offense organized.
 
When Kanter learns how to shoot a ****ing hook shot for Christ's sake then maybe he should get more plays. As it stands, he's crossing the ball back over his body into traffic, slowly, with no left hand to speak of thus leaving the ball unprotected if he can even get a shot off.

Shoot the ****ing hook. Shoot it. All of the non-sense he does in the post is just a bad dance if he refuses to take a fundamental, simple, strong shot.
 
Also, nobody is going to bite on his pump-fakes or up-and-unders if that's all he does in the post. He needs to take simpler shots and make quicker decisions. He's making the game so much harder for himself than he needs to.

I had expressed concern that being mentored by Big Al might not have been best thing and we're really seeing it (was anyone else disgusted with that cute note that Enes gave to Al? It was very telling).
 
On second thought, the Jazz should be starting Kanter and giving him 20 shots a game. Tank = secured.
 
NUMBERICA said:
On second thought, the Jazz should be starting Kanter and giving him 20 shots a game. Tank = secured.
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I'm down. Marvin has to go.

@LockedonsportsTrey Burke impact on Jazz with Burke on floor Jazz off rating is 102.8 with him off the floor 94.3. Marvin's very similar 104.8 to 93.2
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This some bull **** and I want to kick DL in the nuts one time for each game Marvin suits up.
 
franklin said:
I'm down. Marvin has to go.



This some bull **** and I want to kick DL in the nuts one time for each game Marvin suits up.
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Marvin started playing the same time Burke did. So its BS that Kanter was the issue. Its Corbins horrible offense that has the big guys at the 3 point line over and over.

Kanter has his issues but this year is about developing the big for the future.
 
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Twin Towers said:
Running the wing players in circles giving them the option to slash or shoot of the screen. While big guys stay at the 3 point line and watch.
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There's something wrong with this??? Or you just don't like to watch the Jazz do it?



Twin Towers said:
Marvin started playing the same time Burke did. So its BS that Kanter was the issue. Its Corbins horrible offense that has the big guys at the 3 point line over and over.

Kanter has his issues but this year is about developing the big for the future.
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I'll have to refer you to GVC's Slaughterhouse if you want to get butchered over that one.
 
I'll admit I haven't/can't watch the Jazz much, but I'm wondering about the play where Burke takes it up the court, then passes it to a wing who then waits for Burke to run around the court off a couple screens, and then gets the ball back and then they run the pick-and-roll. Can someone please explain the reasoning behind this?
 
LazyD said:
I'll admit I haven't/can't watch the Jazz much, but I'm wondering about the play where Burke takes it up the court, then passes it to a wing who then waits for Burke to run around the court off a couple screens, and then gets the ball back and then they run the pick-and-roll. Can someone please explain the reasoning behind this?
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PNR is the bailout option in "loop" or "floppy", but plays always work better off action than straight up going into pnr so it's a better option if nothing else develops. Movement gives you a chance to gain the upper hand on defenders and initiate on your terms.

This play has a double pin down screen than can get a wide open shot, a switch with the guard defending a big in the post, or the big can slip the screen and fade for a baseline jumpshot or sneak backdoor if they overplay the guard. You can get good post position for the big on the initiating side of the floor as his defender pays too much attention to the action behind him by cutting off the Trey layup underneath the basket. Also, the guard setting the first pick usually crosses court to the corner and can get a wide open 3 if they pay too much attention to Trey. You can run it without the initial v-cut by the wing and instead have Trey bring the ball down a little slower so they can run "the Harpring curl". You can also run it with a big to establish deep post position.

The Jazz suck at it so it tends to end in side pick and role between the guard and Favors. The scrambling should open up drive and dish three point shots as the defenders aren't in established position to cover the pnr so the others have to pack down and help on Trey and Favors.



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Those are more traditional options. The Jazz are running it differently to get more three point or paint looks.
 
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LazyD said:
I'll admit I haven't/can't watch the Jazz much, but I'm wondering about the play where Burke takes it up the court, then passes it to a wing who then waits for Burke to run around the court off a couple screens, and then gets the ball back and then they run the pick-and-roll. Can someone please explain the reasoning behind this?
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to tire the opposing players
 
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