Should the Jazz trade the Celtics for one of their bigs?

[Maneesh]

Your thought seems to have been jammed into a blender before posting... same as all your other posts. If you are trying to say that Snyder has as much chance of teaching Lyles basketball as I have of teaching you English I disagree. Snyder's job would be a million times easier.

How dare insult me Daughter!

 

[fishonjazz]

Is Reggie Jackson's 5-year, $80 million contract through 2020 a good idea for a team that will probably have to max out 3 front-court players and just drafted their PG with the 5th overall?

Lets not forget how this team was playing with Exum and Gobert after that trade.

Good point

 

[NUMBERICA]

Is Reggie Jackson's 5-year, $80 million contract through 2020 a good idea for a team that will probably have to max out 3 front-court players and just drafted their PG with the 5th overall?

Lets not forget how this team was playing with Exum and Gobert after that trade.

Did the NBA ban trades? Is having too many good and paid players a bigger problem than lacking them?

 

[NUMBERICA]

This.

The revisionist history around this place reaches staggering proportions at times. If we got Jackson in that trade we wouldn't have resigned him. No way, not unless we wanted to lose at least one of our remaining core players in free agency. Therefore it doesn't matter that we didn't get him.

Good point

Wait, seriously? I suppose to you, the best way to deal with good and paid players on expiring contracts is to just let them walk because that's the only option? I'm going to cut the rhetorical questions here: The Jazz have years before they would have to make any decisions that would have luxury tax ramifications. YEARS.

 

[NAOS]

We definitely couldn't have traded Jackson if he were on our team and playing well. We'd have been toedalay stuckers and lose Rudy and championships. Gotta get back to bakking the cakk

 

[Deleted member 848]

None of those players are worth a first-round pick. Not even close.

I agree, just saying that we have the assets.

 

[Deleted member 848]

they also got Leuer on the cheap, but they got no cakes, pies, cookies, or doughnuts.

Teletovic was a good pickup, but I don't think anyone thought that Leuer would be better than Booker coming into this season.

That's been the biggest letdown so far this season-- Withey, Pleiss, and Booker have been zeros.

 

[NAOS]

Teletovic was a good pickup, but I don't think anyone thought that Leuer would be better than Booker coming into this season.

That's been the biggest letdown so far this season-- Withey, Pleiss, and Booker have been zeros.

I liked this post even though I don't think Booker has been a zero. He's like a special teams player in the NFL: he creates possessions sometimes, out of almost nothing. I don't know what's happened to his shooting and finishing at the rim, though. Horrendous.

 

[fishonjazz]

I like withey

 

[Deleted member 848]

I liked this post even though I don't think Booker has been a zero. He's like a special teams player in the NFL: he creates possessions sometimes, out of almost nothing. I don't know what's happened to his shooting and finishing at the rim, though. Horrendous.

a good point. His energy sometimes lifts the team. His finishing has driven me up the ****ing wall though.

 

[NUMBERICA]

We definitely couldn't have traded Jackson if he were on our team and playing well. We'd have been toedalay stuckers and lose Rudy and championships. Gotta get back to bakking the cakk

As someone that outthinks myself all the time (this isn't a compliment), I am familiar with overthinking. Lindsey checkmated himself in three moves on this one.

 

[FalseFlagg K]

Teletovic was a good pickup, but I don't think anyone thought that Leuer would be better than Booker coming into this season.

That's been the biggest letdown so far this season-- Withey, Pleiss, and Booker have been zeros.

disagree i think Withey has been very serviceable in limited opportunities

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

Teletovic was a good pickup, but I don't think anyone thought that Leuer would be better than Booker coming into this season.

That's been the biggest letdown so far this season-- Withey, Pleiss, and Booker have been zeros.

I liked leuer a lot. He had decent numbers in Memphis. At one year and 1.3 M you add him as a fourth big and see what he is... Didn't need to be a Booker replacement. I assumed we had a plan with our FA money and maybe we still make a lopsided trade but as of right now this last offseason was a fail. Hell we know injuries happen right. Should have added another PF with a different skill set for depth or as a trade asset. Could have been leuer, teletovic, jerebko, casspi, or higher prices guys like aminu or even trading for Dudley. Wiz got Dudley for nothing. Any of those guys would have been attainable and would be adding more value than Ingles, Booker, Lyles, withey, tibor or Neto.

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

Basically I think we pooped in our big boy pants this summer.

 

[MDAV28]

Wait, seriously? I suppose to you, the best way to deal with good and paid players on expiring contracts is to just let them walk because that's the only option? I'm going to cut the rhetorical questions here: The Jazz have years before they would have to make any decisions that would have luxury tax ramifications. YEARS.

Jackson would have put them like 9 million into the luxury tax right?

 

[MDAV28]

Did the NBA ban trades? Is having too many good and paid players a bigger problem than lacking them?

I think allowing the group to grow together and succeed (as they did in the latter part of last season) isn't a bad strategy. DL can't see into the future, he couldn't predict Exum wouldn't even make it to the start of next season.

Getting Reggie would have been like getting Big Al after drafting Favors. (Yes I know, he came before and we didn't draft Favors, just a comparison)

 

[NUMBERICA]

Jackson would have put them like 9 million into the luxury tax right?

He would've put them somewhere around the (soft) salary cap, which would be some tens of millions under the luxury tax. Furthermore, the cap is set to jump 25% or more in the coming years. The Jazz have done nothing but piss away assets in the last year.

I'm not anti-Lindsey, but this worshipping of him has to ****ing go. There seems to have been little-to-no accountability for what have been obvious whiffs. It's okay to call things what they are, when they are.

 

[NUMBERICA]

I think allowing the group to grow together and succeed (as they did in the latter part of last season) isn't a bad strategy. DL can't see into the future, he couldn't predict Exum wouldn't even make it to the start of next season.

Getting Reggie would have been like getting Big Al after drafting Favors. (Yes I know, he came before and we didn't draft Favors, just a comparison)

Not quite. Reggie is equipped to play as a 2, as is Exum (at least physically). No one would scratch their heads if Exum, Jackson, and Hayward started with Burks and Hood off the bench. Hood isn't (or at least wasn't) in any position to expect or demand a heightened role. So even with a healthy team, that's a simply better team. And since there has never been a guarantee that Exum pans out, even better.

Figuring out how to play different bigs together in unique roles is much more difficult than playing multi-positional perimeter players. And again, if it doesn't work out perfectly or the salary gets a little dicey, that's something that can wait several seasons to have to deal with.