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What makes Aldridge better than Favors? Favors is much better defensively and Aldridge is inefficient offensive midrange chucker whose TS% and eFG are lower than both league average and position average. If you gave 20 possession a game to Favors(and gave him a competent PG) are you sure he won't score more than Aldridge? Because I'm not sure about that. I'd take Al Horford 10/10 before I take Aldridge.
 
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What makes Aldridge better than Favors? Favors is much better defensively and Aldridge is inefficient offensive midrange chucker whose TS% and eFG are lower than both league average and position average. If you gave 20 possession a game to Favors(and gave him a competent PG) are you sure he won't score more than Aldridge? Because I'm not sure about that. I'd take Al Horford 10/10 before I take Aldridge.
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LA is a black hole too.
 
ncoloradojazz said:
If you honestly take Favors over LA then you are not a great basketball mind. Not one GM would take Favors over him. Drinking the kool aid strong on this one buddy.
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I would take Favors over LA at their salary and age. Right now he's about as good as LA (though LA is probably slightly better) with more room to grow and improve while LA is at his peak, or on the downhill side. I'd say their are a lot of GM's that would take Favors over LA if they get them at their current salary.
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Also as somebody else stated LA is a black hole and inefficient scorer and not as good of a defender as Favors already is. That could change now that he's going to a system not built around that kind of player.
 
gregbroncs said:
I would take Favors over LA at their salary and age. Right now he's about as good as LA (though LA is probably slightly better) with more room to grow and improve while LA is at his peak, or on the downhill side. I'd say their are a lot of GM's that would take Favors over LA if they get them at their current salary.
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Also as somebody else stated LA is a black hole and inefficient scorer and not as good of a defender as Favors already is.
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Good post. Favors has gotten better every year and there's no reason to think he's peaked. LA is 30 years old; DF is 24. If you give a slight edge to LA right now (and I probably would), I think that advantage likely disappears in 1-2 years. Favors posted 16/8/2 last season on 53%. That's not shabby. LA averaged 23/10/1 on 47%. For the first time in his career, LA took quite a few 3PT shots and averaged 35%. He's also an excellent FT shooter, which Derrick is not. But give Favors more touches on offense, and consider his superior defense and the gap is pretty narrow between the two.
 
LMA is a go-to offensive player. He's a bit soft defensively, but he's good. Favors will take another step this year.
 
stitches said:
LaMarcus is one of the most overrated players in the league. I'm not sure I'd take him in front of Favors to be fair. I really like Green but he's not top 20 players. I'd put him somewhere around 30.

Dirk should probably be out of the top 40, although... at least he's still efficient offensive player. He's absolute liability on defense. One of the worst PFs in the league defensively.

I was glad Jordan wasn't too high, too...
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Solid post on LMA. He's basically Al Jefferson with more hype. I would take Favors 10 out of 10 based on contract size. Give me LMA at Favors' price and I probably still look elsewhere. I hope SAS can fix his horrid shot selection and scoring %. Then again, I hope he makes the place a steaming pile of garbage.
 
I don't understand how Gobert isn't a lot higher. You can easily tell that he is the most valuable player on the floor most games. He makes a bigger impact that most players. A lot players are replaceable too. You can't replace Gobert.

Conley, Lowry, and Bledsoe are all ranked higher. I'm sorry, I'm taking Gobert over a decent point guard easily. You don't find dominant defensive rim protectors that often. And they are more important most of the time.

I'd rather have Gobert over a lot of those players. Including Favors and Hayward. Even for this year too. Who cares that Rudy is young.
 
Hack said:
I don't understand how Gobert isn't a lot higher. You can easily tell that he is the most valuable player on the floor most games. He makes a bigger impact that most players. A lot players are replaceable too. You can't replace Gobert.

Conley, Lowry, and Bledsoe are all ranked higher. I'm sorry, I'm taking Gobert over a decent point guard easily. You don't find dominant defensive rim protectors that often. And they are more important most of the time.

I'd rather have Gobert over a lot of those players. Including Favors and Hayward. Even for this year too. Who cares that Rudy is young.
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I am the opposite. Can't see how anyone who plays half a season even makes the list. Don't get me wrong, I think he is the real deal but he has not proved anything yet. Plenty of players are flashes in the pan.
 
Lesson learned, as always, ncolorado jazz is dumb
 
ncoloradojazz said:
So yall think your top 3 is underrated and other all star players are overrated. You wonder why the Jazz fanbaser is the laughing stock of sports. The way yall have treated past players. Like YOU own them. But keep doing your thang because I see the Jazz always killing it in free agency. Ibaka and LA are both better then aNY player on the jazz. Don't count Kobe out. He has an incredible work ethic. He is also one of the greatest ever you dumb asses
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Even when you have good points, they tend to get lost in the dickishness and childish insults.

Regarding the Jazz fans being laughing stock, I've lived all around the country and have not heard this once. Here is what 99.9% people think about Jazz fans: nothing at all.
 
stitches said:
What makes Aldridge better than Favors? Favors is much better defensively and Aldridge is inefficient offensive midrange chucker whose TS% and eFG are lower than both league average and position average. If you gave 20 possession a game to Favors(and gave him a competent PG) are you sure he won't score more than Aldridge? Because I'm not sure about that. I'd take Al Horford 10/10 before I take Aldridge.
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Horford has trouble staying healthy, I'd take Aldridge.

I don't like LA's game at all, but the fact is he is a player you can build a playoff team around and his offensive game is largely unstoppable if he is on.

Horford is great too. Certainly a more complete game, but he has injury issues, doesn't get to the FT line, and won't carry a team on offense during crunch time.
 
Cy said:
Horford has trouble staying healthy, I'd take Aldridge.

I don't like LA's game at all, but the fact is he is a player you can build a playoff team around and his offensive game is largely unstoppable if he is on.

Horford is great too. Certainly a more complete game, but he has injury issues, doesn't get to the FT line, and won't carry a team on offense during crunch time.
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The thing is even without going to the FT line as much Horford is much more efficient offensive player and much better playmaker for the rest of the team. I am also not sold on Aldridge being a great first option. Yes, he can get hot and win you some games, but he can also keep chucking until you are out of the game(practically a better version of what we are killing Trey for). He's simply not efficient enough for it. He is good at the worst shot in basketball and average to below average in everything else and he does not create enough for his teammates for it to be worth it.

Horford's injury is concerning indeed(especially because it's the second time he's had surgery on that shoulder) and should be taken into account, but he played a full season last year without any problem. I think I'd take a chance on him staying healthy than on Aldridge becoming an efficient enough scorer. Oh and BTW he's a better defender too...
 
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The thing is even without going to the FT line as much Horford is much more efficient offensive player and much better playmaker for the rest of the team. I am also not sold on Aldridge being a great first option. Yes, he can get hot and win you some games, but he can also keep chucking until you are out of the game(practically a better version of what we are killing Trey for). He's simply not efficient enough for it. He is good at the worst shot in basketball and average to below average in everything else and he does not create enough for his teammates for it to be worth it.

Horford's injury is concerning indeed(especially because it's the second time he's had surgery on that shoulder) and should be taken into account, but he played a full season last year without any problem. I think I'd take a chance on him staying healthy than on Aldridge becoming an efficient enough scorer. Oh and BTW he's a better defender too...
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Horford also plays in the East. How much would LA dominate the East?
 
I think a lot of Jazz fans don't hold LMA in high regard because our most recent memories of him is seeing him get shut down mercilessly by Gobert.
 
Cy said:
Horford also plays in the East. How much would LA dominate the East?
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I don't know. How much is Kevin Love dominating the East? I don't think the difference for a full season on a player level would be as big as people assume. For example, the average defensive rating for the east is better than the average defensive rating for the west. Where the West kills the East is on offense. You might say part of it is because of them playing more against lesser competition, but I think on the whole the difference is not big enough to expect much better performance by individual players moving to the east.

edit: I just checked his stats vs East conference and vs West conference teams. Here's my findings for his career:
vs East: 35.6mpg, 19.7ppg, 8.7 rpg, 2.0 apg, TS% .543
vs West: 35.4mpg, 19.2ppg, 8.2 rpg, 1.9 apg, TS% .525

While playing in the West his career averages are: 35.5mpg, 19.4ppg, 8.4rpg, 1.9apg, TS% .532

If we assume he played in the east and extrapolated his stats(52games vs East, 30 games vs West) we'd get: 35.5mpg, 19.52ppg, 8.52rpg, 1.9apg, TS% 536

As you can see the difference is negligible.
 
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