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SaltyDawg said:
And there were tons of laptops announced at CES, right? Oh wait...

The laptop is well on its way to being obsolete. As you can see in the first post, the soon to be released AT&T smartphone makes buying a laptop pretty pointless. And it is only the first of many such devices that will hit the market in the near future.


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So does anyone think there were tons of laptops announced at CES? If so, the number of tablets and smartphones must have been unfathomable. And yes, vinyl, I saw your link to the 5 or so that were announced. It doesn't change anything.


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SaltyDawg said:
Seriously. Watch that video and then come tell me why the average person would buy a desktop or laptop after buying that phone.

And if that phone ran windows 8, why would anyone even argue this?


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And I know for a fact that videos like that are never orchestrated to put the product in a good light. Never.

As soon as I see one running Word, Excel, Explorer and maybe a photoshop window or the like all at the same time I will buy into the possibility. For now it is a novelty. Also, Windows has long been rumored to be developing Windows 8 to run on different platforms in a "full-blown" version, which all along has meant more compact. When will the phone get scalable RAM? Can it match my 1.5 TB harddrive? If demand for external drives goes up to compensate for the phone lacking storage space, then there goes the price differential.

So the phone costs $500 (don't think it will be much less, even with a service plan - you think they will release the "PC Killer" and not capitalize on it?), the keyboard/mouse/docking station (if combo together) $100-200, the monitor $200-$500 or whatever you want to spend (not a lot different from now) and the external hard drive(s) $50-200 depending on what you need and now you are at $800 to $1200 range. Hardly an incentive to leave the laptop/desktop realm. Especially when $500 now will buy you a bundle with PC, keyboard/mouse, monitor, and software, all with processing power that will for a long time out-perform the phone. That is what they keep skimming over. No phone has processing power or RAM to run a full version of microsoft Word or other programs, forget even video or picture editing software.

Yes it is cool technology. Sure I would probably look at one, other than I hate touch screen keypads (that is why I stick with Blackberry). Might we one day in the future see something resembling this as a regular option along-side PC's and laptops? Probably, as in next year apparently it will be an option. But replacing the PC or Laptop? Please.
 
SaltyDawg said:
So does anyone think there were tons of laptops announced at CES? If so, the number of tablets and smartphones must have been unfathomable. And yes, vinyl, I saw your link to the 5 or so that were announced. It doesn't change anything.


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And the number of tablets and smartphones announced doesn't change the fact that laptops are in fact going in the opposite direction of obsolete as their year over year sales continue to increase.
 
I just put skype on my desktop and reduced the resolution to 480x320. And voilà. I simply need to find an online version of Angry Birds and I've just replaced my computer with a smartphone. Salty, I thank you.
 
KrazeeEyezKilla said:
And the number of tablets and smartphones announced doesn't change the fact that laptops are in fact going in the opposite direction of obsolete as their year over year sales continue to increase.
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And that means they will forever trend in that direction, right?

If smartphones are already growing at a faster rate than laptops, and are now being released with laptop and desktop docking stations, you would be foolish to expect the average person to keep buying both.


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bordelais7 said:
I just put skype on my desktop and reduced the resolution to 480x320. And voilà. I simply need to find an online version of Angry Birds and I've just replaced my computer with a smartphone. Salty, I thank you.
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480 x 320? Someone is stuck in the past...

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LogGrad98 said:
And I know for a fact that videos like that are never orchestrated to put the product in a good light. Never.

As soon as I see one running Word, Excel, Explorer and maybe a photoshop window or the like all at the same time I will buy into the possibility. For now it is a novelty. Also, Windows has long been rumored to be developing Windows 8 to run on different platforms in a "full-blown" version, which all along has meant more compact. When will the phone get scalable RAM? Can it match my 1.5 TB harddrive? If demand for external drives goes up to compensate for the phone lacking storage space, then there goes the price differential.

So the phone costs $500 (don't think it will be much less, even with a service plan - you think they will release the "PC Killer" and not capitalize on it?), the keyboard/mouse/docking station (if combo together) $100-200, the monitor $200-$500 or whatever you want to spend (not a lot different from now) and the external hard drive(s) $50-200 depending on what you need and now you are at $800 to $1200 range. Hardly an incentive to leave the laptop/desktop realm. Especially when $500 now will buy you a bundle with PC, keyboard/mouse, monitor, and software, all with processing power that will for a long time out-perform the phone. That is what they keep skimming over. No phone has processing power or RAM to run a full version of microsoft Word or other programs, forget even video or picture editing software.

Yes it is cool technology. Sure I would probably look at one, other than I hate touch screen keypads (that is why I stick with Blackberry). Might we one day in the future see something resembling this as a regular option along-side PC's and laptops? Probably, as in next year apparently it will be an option. But replacing the PC or Laptop? Please.
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So are you saying you don't think the average person will be buying smartphones going forward or are you saying the average person will spend an arm and a leg for both?

FYI, pretty much all smartphones sold in 2012 and beyond will have all of that and more.

BTW, they are running google docs (like word), and several other apps at the same time in different windows at the same time. You keep mentioning things the video clearly disproves.




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SaltyDawg said:
So are you saying you don't think the average person will be buying smartphones going forward or are you saying the average person will spend an arm and a leg for both?

FYI, pretty much all smartphones sold in late 2012 and beyond will have all of that and more.

BTW, they are running google docs (like word), and several other apps at the same time in different windows at the same time. You keep mentioning things the video clearly disproves.




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Well nowhere did I say no one would buy smartphones. YOU said they would completely replace PC's "soon". I am refuting that. Smartphones of course have a place, as a peripheral, as a novelty, as a communications device, as entertainment, etc. And obviously one is due to be released that can potentially function as a computer. I even said I would be checking it out. No one is disputing that. What is disputed is your claim that they will completely replace PCs "soon" whatever soon means.

What you did there was called a straw man argument. Nice try.

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I see where you are going, it is the price thing. Well you brought up the fact that for $300 bucks you could completely replace your PC with your phone. I was pointing out that the cost would be far more than the $300 you identified and I broke it down for you. Again this was to argue against smartphones completely replacing PC's. Again no where did I imply that no one would ever buy smartphones again.
 
Bordy said:
I just put skype on my desktop and reduced the resolution to 480x320. And voilà. I simply need to find an online version of Angry Birds and I've just replaced my computer with a smartphone. Salty, I thank you.
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SaltyDawg said:
480 x 320? Someone is stuck in the past...

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**ZOOOOM!!** I think Salty missed that one. LOL
 
LogGrad98 said:
Well nowhere did I say no one would buy smartphones. YOU said they would completely replace PC's "soon". I am refuting that. Smartphones of course have a place, as a peripheral, as a novelty, as a communications device, as entertainment, etc. And obviously one is due to be released that can potentially function as a computer. I even said I would be checking it out. No one is disputing that. What is disputed is your claim that they will completely replace PCs "soon" whatever soon means.

What you did there was called a straw man argument. Nice try.

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I see where you are going, it is the price thing. Well you brought up the fact that for $300 bucks you could completely replace your PC with your phone. I was pointing out that the cost would be far more than the $300 you identified and I broke it down for you. Again this was to argue against smartphones completely replacing PC's. Again no where did I imply that no one would ever buy smartphones again.
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I still don't entirely understand your argument. Please clarify a few things for me...

1: Did you watch the video? (if not, please watch it before you comment)

2: What does the average person do on their computer that isn't demonstrated in that video?

3: You understand that all smartphones will have all of this and more by next year?

4: You understand that when windows 8 launches on these phones it will run the same software as a laptop?

5: You understand that the smartphone market is growing faster than the laptop market?

6: If the smartphone does everything the the laptop does, why would the average person buy both?

Oh yeah, and that phone will be less than $500 on contract. It will be around $200. It might be a little higher at first, but it will settle in at around $200 for the majority of its retail life, and go lower towards the end of its retail life. With the docks it will be around $500, but you won't need to buy the docks again when you get a new phone.


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