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Smartphones to replace computers soon

I wonder when LG is going to give up. Not because he's wrong by any stretch, but because I'm sure he could find better things to do with his time.
 
unluckyseventeen said:
I wonder when LG is going to give up. Not because he's wrong by any stretch, but because I'm sure he could find better things to do with his time.
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Read the last paragraph of my last big post. That is the answer.
 
LogGrad98 said:
I realized I needed to edit my post above. I meant I used the Razr as an example, comparing "most popular phone" then to "most popular phone" today.

And wow are you dogged in not letting your opinion falter or change in the tiniest little bit. DVD dead? Tell that to my DVD collection that I add to every year. I have a Blu-ray player and still cannot find every movie on Blu-ray. DVD players are still outselling Blu-ray and the industry is trying to push more Blu-ray by selling ONLY machines that have Blu-ray capability. Frankly there will be a market for regular DVDs for quite a while, at least until the price difference comes down enough that people choose Blu-ray over DVD.

The cassette took over a decade to go away. First CD players introduced in 1979 or thereabout. Cassettes were still being sold well into the 90's. In the mid-90's my wife bought a music program for my kids that was not available yet on CD. You have your timelines messed up. Or you define "shortly" to fit your argument.

And this new smartphone is new tech, even from current smartphones. It builds off previous platform but so did Blu-ray really. It will take more than 4 years for that new tech to overtake a market as strong as the PC. It will take closer to the decade you specified for other tech.

You conveniently ignore the point of hardware familiarity being one thing that drives computer sales and you focus on the software. And you haven't priced computers through an IT department and simply the cost of cellular plans for an organization have you? Economies of scale are far greater for hardware and broadband internet than they are for cell plans. That is not even taking the phone itself into account, just the service. And cell plans are not magically going to drop in price. But broadband costs are coming down in order to compete with cellular.

And you miss the point again. You said it yourself in the title of the thread and anytime in some way we show any data or professional projections that computers will still be selling strong you go at it like a starving lion after a wounded animal. Then you back off and say "I didn't mean replace".

For being in high-tech you show a lack of understanding about software development. Windows 8 went into development shortly after Windows 7...in 2004-5 timeframe. Microsoft started this practice really after the fiasco of Win 98 and the service pack releases. They had always developed ahead obviously simply due to the time or takes to develop software, but at that point they started developing the future platform before the next platform was released. COD Black Ops has been in development for 3 years before release. Adobe CS5 was in development before the release of CS4 3 years ago. You do realize that software development takes time. You better believe software companies are trying to identify trends and are now developing ideas and ground-work for software and platforms at least 5 years from now, including both PC and phone platforms.

And here is proof you are just defending your position rather than listening and possibly accepting that other ideas have merit:



Here is what I said in my previous post:



And this:



That is the crux of it. I never really considered my Evo taking over my computer until we started this thread. My biggest beef is the timeframe that you doggedly stick to without wavering in the least. I already expressed I am very impressed with where the tech is heading.

You undermine your entire argument by not being able to budge in the least. We present market forecasts by companies that do that for a living, you basically say they are up in the night. Anything else presented is simply wiped away with a "it will only happen the way I think it will" regardless of source. It is hard to argue with fact vs opinion when the person with the opinion cannot acknowledge the facts in the slightest.
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1: I knew you were going to go to the "it took longer than 4 years" card. I already explained it, but I'll say it again: smartphones have been on the market a lot longer than 4 years, and gaining traction every year. The first smartphone was actually made by IBM in 1992. You think the atrix is new tech? LOL! it's not new. The only thing new about it is it is the first phone being marketed as one that can replace a desktop. There have been docks for years. Maybe not as nice as those docks, but docks are not new. The Palm Treo 180 had a dock back in 2002.

2: Yes, I have priced computers for an IT department. That used to be my job at one time. You obviously haven't if you are debating the cost benefit here. Again, $360 for you and me to go buy an atrix with the laptop dock and the HD (desktop) dock. If we're getting it for that, you can bet the IT departments are getting it for around $200-$250 for the total package. yes, they will have a monthly cell phone bill. Chances are they already have a monthly cell phone bill for a lot of the people in the office anyway. And that monthly cell phone bill will be significantly cheaper than what you or I would pay. Think about how much cheaper a 4 line family plan is when compared to an individual plan. Now imagine if that was a 200 line plan. It will be significantly cheaper than an individual plan.

3: Windows 8 is in development, yes. There are no development tools available for it yet. You can't develop a program for Windows 8 yet because there are no development tools. Period. You have no idea what you're talking about if you are seriously trying to tell me that people are making programs right now that won't be released until Windows 8. It's not possible to code for Windows 8 right now. And with it running on ARM architecture it will be totally different than any Windows that has ever been released. The closest thing to it is the current Windows Phone platform, which is still totally different but closer than any previous version of Windows.

4: I budge when I am presented with a reason to budge. Clearly, I don't think you know what you're talking about. I know for sure unlucky doesn't- he said he's never even owned a cell phone so how the heck is he supposed to predict where the industry is headed? And KEK doesn't either, he's demonstrated that in this thread, and also never even claimed to know. Citing market forecasts that were already proven wrong by the past 3 months of computer sales (lower than expected, while smartphone sales were higher than expected and Google had their most profitable quarter ever) is not helping your case. If a good reason is given for me to alter my opinion, then I'll alter my opinion. But a bunch of people who have no idea just telling me they think I'm wrong, well that is not going to change my opinion one bit. I hear 10-20 people talking about how this is imminent every single day for every one of you guys that are posting about me being wrong. And I'm talking people that are actually educated on this subject and not just trolling, pulling it out of their rear, never even owned a cell phone, etc.

You can disagree with me all you want. We'll see who was right in the end. If I was going to run and hide from this prediction then I would not have started this thread. You may or may not know, but this thread is a "bump" from the old board when I made this same prediction.
 
https://www.engadget.com/2011/02/08/idc-says-100-9m-smartphones-sold-in-fourth-quarter-pcs-outsold/

IDC says 100.9M smartphones sold in fourth quarter, PCs outsold for first time

In case you had any lingering doubt that the smartphone is the new personal computer, just take a glance at IDC's new global smartphone sales numbers for the fourth quarter of 2010 where we learn that some 100.9 million units were pushed in the three-month period -- up a whopping 87.9 percent year over year. That figure compares to 92.1 million PCs sold during the same quarter, which, though a record for the PC industry, was left in the dust of the smartphone's stratospheric rise. This marks the very first quarter in history that smartphones have outsold traditional computers -- and considering the trajectories that both industries are in, we'd be surprised if they ever flip-flopped again. If anything, IDC and other analysis firms might need to readjust the nomenclature in their reports in a few years if (or when) convergence platforms like the Atrix 4G with its Laptop Dock start to gain traction. Of course, to Bill Gates and others, this technological cross-pollination comes as no surprise -- and really, who can argue with a handheld that's packing PC power?
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Salty is right.
Just today my IT tech just came and replaced my laptop with an iPhone 4.
They installed Microsoft Office, and all that, and gave me a travel mouse and keyboard to go with it, and a docking station.
I'm making the final adjustments now, and moving the files over.
Ahhhhh advancement.

Swyped from my iPhone 4
 
JazzSpazz said:
Salty is right.
Just today my IT tech just came and replaced my laptop with an iPhone 4.
They installed Microsoft Office, and all that, and gave me a travel mouse and keyboard to go with it, and a docking station.
I'm making the final adjustments now, and moving the files over.
Ahhhhh advancement.

Swyped from my iPhone 4
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iPhone 4? No. iPhone 5? Doubtful. iPhone 6? Probably. iPhone 7? Absolutely.


Sent from my HTC Evo using Tapatalk.
 
When I saw this during the Superbowl I immediately thought of certain parties that shall remain nameless. I LOL'd.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pS9sUm5Y0sg&NR=1
 
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