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So did we learn anything from last years "Learning Year"?

Winning consistently on the road is the LAST thing a team puts together. The Boozer-Williams Jazz never really got there, and you are expecting that in the third real year of a rebuild? If the Jazz sniff 40% on the road this year I will be ecstatic. They are currently doing better than that.
 
This team still has too many holes. The plan was to have Exum take a big step forward, which it looked like he had (for one game) and then move Neto to the backup PG and move Burke for parts.

With Exum out, we still have a colossal sized hole at PG. Until that is fixed, we are severely flawed.

IF Exum pans out, we will be a title contender. If he doesn't pan out, our ceiling is probably at Deron/Boozer level.
 
framer said:
Winning consistently on the road is the LAST thing a team puts together. The Boozer-Williams Jazz never really got there, and you are expecting that in the third real year of a rebuild? If the Jazz sniff 40% on the road this year I will be ecstatic. They are currently doing better than that.
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Didn't the Stockton/Malone Jazz only have a winning road record once?
 
tedbundy said:
Not every game, but when you are in it late in the 4th and miss free throws and make critical mistakes that cost the game it's hard to accept. The worst part is not the losing, it's the Boler and Harp using the exact same lines from last year to say why we are losing. Are we not to expect a better product this year and years to come. If we say the same things and play the same way how is that okay? GoodHell What do I expect? I expect some improvement. I know the record thus far is better this year than last so there is that. I just want to see the simple mistakes dissipate.
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Mistakes have dissipated. You've gotten everything you asked for in this thread yet you still made it. They've improved, they are better on the road (so far), and they have made fewer mistakes this year. Have a little patience they are still one of the youngest teams and core's in the league.
 
Why I'm not worried about this at all:

* not a single player of much significance is likely trending downwards (barring injury) for 3-4 years
* many potentially significant players are still def trending upward
* the "maturity" factor that leads to big road wins is likely 1-2 years out even for Hayward/Favors, the greybeards of the team, you know those little things
* a read heavy Offense, players keep talking about how many reads they have to make, is damn hard to learn but if enabled rocks and helps at end of game - think that Favors to Lyles lob in the paint against Heat
* Quin as a 2nd year coach is probably still getting better at late game out of Timeout situations and he's already not bad
* Gobert's end of last season, late game swagger isn't fully back yet, it will return
* All things equal, Hayward's slump, is most probably just that a: slump, and he'll be back to pushing Favor's for best player
* HEY BONUS - our defensive stud of an injured PG is only upside from whatever we accomplish this year and is either a push or a press
 
franklin said:
I don't know. You've told us for several years that playing time is all that matters. Maybe you built this now disappointed monster Mr. tedbundy.
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He shouldn't be disappointed. As it stands the jazz are in a playoff spot, have played more road games than anybody else, and went toe to toe with a couple of really good teams at their place.

Btw, maybe if corbin would have done a better job of developing guys, we would be even better
 
tedbundy said:
It seems to me that these last two games are exactly the type of game we were supposed to be learning from last year. If I have to hear Harpring or Boler say that this is a great learning experience for these young guys again I'm going to lose it. They have been young for years now. Yes I know we need a point guard, and Gobert was out, but we need to put teams away. We still haven't learned to close games.
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One of the problems has been Quin's late game management. Who puts in a non-defensive lineup in the crunch and then wastes the last time out with 40 seconds left? If you're going to put a non-defensive lineup in then run and score. If you're going to call a time out regardless then put in a defensive lineup.

I'm scratching my head at his decision making. I thought about making a thread about this last night.
 
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