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So glad we don’t have to deal with this anymore ……

I would rather be in Cleveland's shoes than Minnys for one reason...

MENTAL MAKEUP!!!

Kat is a clown
Rudy gets butthurt more than Hearsky's mom
Edwards is at Popeyes bad mouthing the bigmen

Those are their pillars. And none of them are what I would call 'character guys'.

Their character resides in Mike Conley who imho made the biggest difference for the team last year. Still, he is 36 in October and his step looked slower last year. And he is owed a pretty penny still.

Cleveland can get gobs from New York or Brooklyn for Mitchell (a lot more than Minny can get for Gobert or Kat) whether yall think so or not. I also like their assets better. Garland is a nice player. He took over in the playoffs, but they kept going to Mitchell. Mobley is going to be good. Okoro looked decent at times. And they team plays well together.
 
Elizah Huge said:
That’s not even a hot take that’s a ****ing trash take. He’s better than anyone on that roster. Come on dude.
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Better at chucking you out of the game in crunch time, perhaps. Ant can play on both ends, Gobert is a generational defender and a world class screen setter, and KAT is a bum, but he's a more talented bum than Mitchell.
 
Gobert took a step back last year so it's pretty hard to say he's better than Mitchell. Same with KAT.

I think Edwards is better tho.
 
Saint Cy of JFC said:
Gobert took a step back last year so it's pretty hard to say he's better than Mitchell. Same with KAT.

I think Edwards is better tho.
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But neither is necessarily a permanent step back. An argument can be made that either of those is a better player than Mitchell.
 
Why did Cleveland even make this deal? If they can’t build around him because he’s going to bail and they aren’t currently contenders, why did they trade for him?
 
The Thriller said:
Why did Cleveland even make this deal? If they can’t build around him because he’s going to bail and they aren’t currently contenders, why did they trade for him?
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They thought he was a #1 option in a championship team and the missing piece. Only problem is that there has only been 1 guard in the past 12 years who led his team to the title as the best player in the team and thats Steph.

The complete list of short guards to ever win the title as #1 option is very short. In fact the entire list of 6'1" or shorter finals MVPs in NBA history is this:

Isiah Thomas

So following that logic they still need the #1 option, or at least a very dominant frontcourt player.
 
HermanG said:
They thought he was a #1 option in a championship team and the missing piece. Only problem is that there has only been 1 guard in the past 12 years who led his team to the title as the best player in the team and thats Steph.

The complete list of short guards to ever win the title as #1 option is very short. In fact the entire list of 6'1" or shorter finals MVPs in NBA history is this:

Isiah Thomas

So following that logic they still need the #1 option, or at least a very dominant frontcourt player.
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They’re dumber than Minny then and I agree that they may have ****ed up worse than the Gobert trade. That team wasn’t close to contention. I think their backcourt is okay. But everything else sucks. Their bigs were worthless, not even close to what Gobert, Favors, or even Whiteside could produce. Prime Lebron might put that team into contention. But Spida ain’t prime Lebron. He’s very good though. I think people are going overboard in bashing him. He’s a top scorer in the league. He’s poor man’s AI. But he needs other players.
 
The Thriller said:
They’re dumber than Minny then and I agree that they may have ****ed up worse than the Gobert trade. That team wasn’t close to contention. I think their backcourt is okay. But everything else sucks. Their bigs were worthless, not even close to what Gobert, Favors, or even Whiteside could produce. Prime Lebron might put that team into contention. But Spida ain’t prime Lebron. He’s very good though. I think people are going overboard in bashing him. He’s a top scorer in the league. He’s poor man’s AI. But he needs other players.
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They overvalued Allen and expected Mobley to take a huge leap offensively. Now Mobley wasnt bad last year but he didnt really take that leap either. Allen was pretty trash though.

Maybe Evan figures it out and they got a proper 1-2 punch. A pair of guards, no matter how good they are, are not winning 4 straight playoff series for you.
 
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