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The Fresh Prince

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So you're saying that if this team loses an xx amount of games that their ambition to play for this team and that their confidence and so forth, POSITIVE mindset will not be affected into next season? They will feel as if they were used to anchor in another lottery pick. Tanking is for mid-to-late season use. Golden State did it in a professional, and as much of a morale-secure manner a few years ago. There is still more than 60 games to be played. It's going to be tough on these guys, and the only way I see a full resolution to this is to ship out a few of the youngins like Hayward and Enes for something valuable in the future.

If you disagree and want to hit me up with hate, blow me!
 
I honestly only think Favors is safe to return next season. Who knows what is going on in DL mind.
 
So you're saying that if this team loses an xx amount of games that their ambition to play for this team and that their confidence and so forth, POSITIVE mindset will not be affected into next season? They will feel as if they were used to anchor in another lottery pick. Tanking is for mid-to-late season use. Golden State did it in a professional, and as much of a morale-secure manner a few years ago. There is still more than 60 games to be played. It's going to be tough on these guys, and the only way I see a full resolution to this is to ship out a few of the youngins like Hayward and Enes for something valuable in the future.

If you disagree and want to hit me up with hate, blow me!

I am not going to blow you or hit you up with hate. I will disagree though. Losing is never pretty and teams do it all the time in this league. Some teams more than others. Sometimes you have to eat a few buckets of **** before you can experience what it is to eat prime rib. The major hope is that along with a big addition(Jabari Parker) this team will abhor losing and our future leaders(Burke and for ****'s sake Parker) will mold this team into a winner. They competed tonight. They lost, but they competed. I think even though we have been horrible, there have been some positives. The Rockets win being a big one. Trey Burke asserting himself as our number 1 PG another. Favors getting more confidence now that he is playing with a real PG.
 
I am not going to blow you or hit you up with hate. I will disagree though. Losing is never pretty and teams do it all the time in this league. Some teams more than others. Sometimes you have to eat a few buckets of **** before you can experience what it is to eat prime rib. The major hope is that with along with a big addition(Jabari Parker) this team will abhor losing and our future leaders(Burke and for ****'s sake Parker) will mold this team into a winner. They competed tonight. They lost, but they competed. I think even though we have been horrible, there have been some positives. The Rockets win being a big one. Trey Burke asserting himself as our number 1 PG another. Favors getting more confidence now that he is playing with a real PG.

This.
 
So you're saying that if this team loses an xx amount of games that their ambition to play for this team and that their confidence and so forth, POSITIVE mindset will not be affected into next season? They will feel as if they were used to anchor in another lottery pick. Tanking is for mid-to-late season use. Golden State did it in a professional, and as much of a morale-secure manner a few years ago. There is still more than 60 games to be played. It's going to be tough on these guys, and the only way I see a full resolution to this is to ship out a few of the youngins like Hayward and Enes for something valuable in the future.

If you disagree and want to hit me up with hate, blow me!

I also don't think they are quitters or content with losing at this point(which would be a bad sign). After getting smoked last night by Portland they nearly came away with this game tonight. Had we had Favors, I think most people would agree that this is a win. They fought hard tonight and just couldn't close it out. They'll learn to do that together as they get more experience.
 
I am not going to blow you or hit you up with hate. I will disagree though. Losing is never pretty and teams do it all the time in this league. Some teams more than others. Sometimes you have to eat a few buckets of **** before you can experience what it is to eat prime rib. The major hope is that along with a big addition(Jabari Parker) this team will abhor losing and our future leaders(Burke and for ****'s sake Parker) will mold this team into a winner. They competed tonight. They lost, but they competed. I think even though we have been horrible, there have been some positives. The Rockets win being a big one. Trey Burke asserting himself as our number 1 PG another. Favors getting more confidence now that he is playing with a real PG.

Horrible analogy. I have never had to eat a bucket of **** to get some prime rib. Usually I just order it and the waiter says OK.
 
Horrible analogy. I have never had to eat a bucket of **** to get some prime rib. Usually I just order it and the waiter says OK.

Come on... I used that analogy for shock value. I guess I could substitute buckets of expired yogurt for buckets of ****... It just doesn't have the same shock value though.
 
That's all good and stuff, but we are still far away from this season being over. You have to wonder if this team will be affected by it by the middle or the end if this season.
 
Come on... I used that analogy for shock value. I guess I could substitute buckets of expired yogurt for buckets of ****... It just doesn't have the same shock value though.

I would still be pretty shocked if I had to eat expired yogurt or a bucket of **** when I ordered prime rib.
 
That's all good and stuff, but we are still far away from this season being over. You have to wonder if this team will be affected by it by the middle or the end if this season.

It's not going to be easy. Ultimately it will hopefully turn them into a team ready to compete for a title. We're talking years down the line. I hope this losing makes each and everyone of these guys look inside themselves and figure out what aspect of their games needs the most improvement. When they figure what that is, they should focus on the primarily all off-season long.
 
I would still be pretty shocked if I had to eat expired yogurt or a bucket of **** when I ordered prime rib.

I might be a little angry as well.....

The chef ran out of prime rib so he just decided to take a dump in this bucket. Bon apetit!
 
Don't you mean that we have to deal with only 1 chocolate fountain before we can understand what it means to have 3 chocolate fountains?
 
Horrible analogy. I have never had to eat a bucket of **** to get some prime rib. Usually I just order it and the waiter says OK.
What an insensitive comment. He might have been talking about his experiences as a nearsighted butcher. Did you ever stop to consider that? Just because you have the system for ordering quality prime rib out you should not be looking down your nose at people who are having tribulations in that area.
 
The Fresh Prince said:
So you're saying that if this team loses an xx amount of games that their ambition to play for this team and that their confidence and so forth, POSITIVE mindset will not be affected into next season? They will feel as if they were used to anchor in another lottery pick. Tanking is for mid-to-late season use. Golden State did it in a professional, and as much of a morale-secure manner a few years ago. There is still more than 60 games to be played. It's going to be tough on these guys, and the only way I see a full resolution to this is to ship out a few of the youngins like Hayward and Enes for something valuable in the future.

If you disagree and want to hit me up with hate, blow me!

Most players aren't dumb as rocks. They know EXACTLY what is going on. And the "Core4" know the team was turned over to them (plus Burke) for this season to see what they could do. Golden State did NOT do the tank professionally. The coach and players were asked to lose games on purpose. Proof? There is ample evidence the way leads were given up late by TO's, players being pulled from games, shots missing badly and the players and Coach Jackson all smiles and giggles on the sideline. Jazz are doing nothing of the sort. Problem is, no one can shoot. SO if the youngins DO get included in trades, it's not because of low morale, it's because DL has found an opportunity to bring in better shooters and better defenders.
 
Hate to burst all of your bubble. But, Corbin and the players are not losing on purpose. They are losing because of poor management decisions that we have made. We forgot to develop our players last year by trading away a Big Al. Next Hayward has been put in the leadership/play maker spot and he is clearly the fourth or fifth best player on the team. We might as wellroot for the tank and enjoy the youth. One of the things the need to happen is get this media to quit stirring up ignorant fans and point out positive not every mistake. We are intelligent fans it is impossible to develop our youth and win a GD championship. I personally would like to see Locke gone. I work at night and listening to him call the games like a cheerleader. He is definitely enough to pray that he wants to follow one of his man crushes Hayward to where ever he goes next year.
 
The morale is matter in all areas not just basketball wise especially for the youngsters. That's why the team culture and coaching philosophy is the most matter issue. It's impossible to miss Sloan. Getting beaten is something but defeated by 30 is another story.
 
They keys for the year are (1) to develop the young players by putting them on the court as much as possible, (2) determine which of those players have the talent to build around for the future and (3) evaluate if Ty Corbin should stick around after his contract expires.

(1) I don't think we've seen enough of Kanter or Gobert yet and I'm disappointed that they haven't chosen to play a lineup of Kanter, Favors, Hayward, Burks and Burke more than they have so far.
(2) I've seen nice things (periodically) from all of Gobert, Kanter, Favors, Hayward, Burks, Garrett and especially Burke. The more this group plays together, the more they should improve at a team. The only thing I don't see out of them is a legit #1 scoring option. I'm hoping they get that piece in the draft.
(3) Ty Corbin is not a good head coach. Nice person. Fine assistant coach. Terrible head coach. This is one area that must improve next year. Get a competent and exciting head coach (to go along with that stud from the draft) and all the struggles this year will be easily forgotten.

I want to have these kids learn from losing. Hayward, Favors and Burke seem to take it personally. I like that. I want players who are mentally strong enough to endure a losing season and bounce back next year when the team improves in specific areas like coaching, #1scoring option and a deeper/better bench. If they can't/won't do that, then I want the team to move on from them. Everyone loses at some point. I don't want to end up like the Cavs, Bobcats or Kings where they stay down there. Next year is where I see how well they've handled the adversity of this season.
 
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