Sources: Utah has expressed interest in re-acquring Deron Williams

[stitches]

Is there a reason why the Jazz can't just claim him off waivers if the want him?

They have cap space and his prorated contract can't be that much.

Him getting pissed off and pouting his way to the end of the season.

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

What if he wants to come to Utah in teh future? If he publicly stated "I dont want to go to Utah" that is a terrible and short sighted PR move. Think.

If you forgot, the dude still lives here. Not wise to piss off the fan base if he doesnt have to.

I wouldn't worry about that... when does he want to come back? If he goes to Cleveland and they win a title is he going to leave then? Think. If they get close and he's now bros with LeBron is he going to want to come then? Think.

Also, he's not spring chicken... if he doesn't want to come now then peace out. He's a few years away from being out of the league completely.

Even if he said it publicly he could still live here... the fans boo the **** out of him already... hasn't forced him to leave.

I'm sorry I don't agree with the moves DL has made, but realize the last time I disagreed was the big cakkk bakkk and DL basically publicly said he effed up so....

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

Him getting pissed off and pouting his way to the end of the season.

We'd have saved $2M and realized he hasn't changed much and would avoid signing him in the offseason... I'd be cool with that honestly... not going to penalize taking a swing and missing.

 

[Cappy_Smurf]

@cappy smurf

I guess we have to keep kicking the can down the road to that point where the Millers spend NBA-style money.

Let me guess, Jazz didn't make a move because they are cheap? Funny thing is, now they still have room to get a Hill extension done, so maybe they just didn't have anything on the table they felt was worth jeopardizing that.

Anyway, far be it from me to stop the annual bitch fest of KOC, er DL sitting on his hands.

Carry on.

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

We'd have saved $2M and realized he hasn't changed much and would avoid signing him in the offseason... I'd be cool with that honestly... not going to penalize taking a swing and missing.

Standing there with your bat on the shoulder while deals fly past that fit and are doable is the thing that pisses me off...

We could have done the Tucker deal, potentially the Illyasova deal (there was some insurance money there), D Will... hell even Mike Scott (character issues, but still).

We did nothing...

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

I wouldn't worry about that... when does he want to come back? If he goes to Cleveland and they win a title is he going to leave then? Think. If they get close and he's now bros with LeBron is he going to want to come then? Think.

Also, he's not spring chicken... if he doesn't want to come now then peace out. He's a few years away from being out of the league completely.

Even if he said it publicly he could still live here... the fans boo the **** out of him already... hasn't forced him to leave.

I'm sorry I don't agree with the moves DL has made, but realize the last time I disagreed was the big cakkk bakkk and DL basically publicly said he effed up so....

He would leave because other teams could pay him more.

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[Saint Cy of JFC]

And it makes more sense for jazz to wait and see what Hill does. If we can't get Hill back, go after Dwill. That's probably why we reached out to him, just to let him know we have interest for next year

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[Handlogten's Heros]

He would leave because other teams could pay him more.

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Maybe, but wouldn't you have the same motivation issues you were concerned about earlier... I mean he's only here cause we paid him more.

 

[Cappy_Smurf]

Just wait... one year we will pay luxury tax... not this year... not next year but soon. So much luxury tax... Millers likely have to sell all dealerships just to foot the bill. You wait.

Being the resident expert on the CBA, I'm sure you're aware of the repeat offender penalties, which I'm quite sure Utah won't pay, so there is a window of 2 years max that they will pay the LT. Therefore, the sooner they pay it, the sooner they have to start cutting to get back under. The way the team is currently built, they are on track to pay the LT after next season. Hide and watch.

 

[NAOS]

Let me guess, Jazz didn't make a move because they are cheap? Funny thing is, now they still have room to get a Hill extension done, so maybe they just didn't have anything on the table they felt was worth jeopardizing that.

Anyway, far be it from me to stop the annual bitch fest of KOC, er DL sitting on his hands.

Carry on.

I'm not bitching, btw. These are just check points on your theory. I want to believe you.

Also, I see the can-kicking phrase.

We need help at the 1 and the 4. And we are at the salary floor. Would you agree that making no moves would be dumb?

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

Maybe, but wouldn't you have the same motivation issues you were concerned about earlier... I mean he's only here cause we paid him more.

That's how 90% of nba players choose where they play. I trust that motivation more than anything.

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[Handlogten's Heros]

And it makes more sense for jazz to wait and see what Hill does. If we can't get Hill back, go after Dwill. That's probably why we reached out to him, just to let him know we have interest for next year

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Hey D Will we have interest... not enough interest to bring you back now while saving $2M but we do have interest. If our other options don't work out we'd love to have you as a plan B. Talk to ya soon big guy.

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

Hey D Will we have interest... not enough interest to bring you back now while saving $2M but we do have interest. If our other options don't work out we'd love to have you as a plan B. Talk to ya soon big guy.

Yeah, its called keeping up relationships with agents/player.

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[NAOS]

... but realize the last time I disagreed was the big cakkk bakkk and DL basically publicly said he effed up so....

at least we have that. It does help me, at least.

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

I'm not bitching, btw. These are just check points on your theory. I want to believe you.

Also, I see the can-kicking phrase.

We need help at the 1 and the 4. And we are at the salary floor. Would you agree that making no moves would be dumb?

Basically everyone has said the Hill extension is not happening.

We got no value for our cap space... again. Forgive me if I am not worshiping at the alter of DL and the Millers for their long-term perspective.

Also, we are below the floor... below it. I can basically guarantee we spend up to the floor which will actually result is us paying actual dollars that are lower than the floor... while we are in a playoff race.

 

[NAOS]

Being the resident expert on the CBA, I'm sure you're aware of the repeat offender penalties, which I'm quite sure Utah won't pay, so there is a window of 2 years max that they will pay the LT. Therefore, the sooner they pay it, the sooner they have to start cutting to get back under. The way the team is currently built, they are on track to pay the LT after next season. Hide and watch.

bro bro bro, nobody here is asking them to make moves that get them anywhere near LT territory sooner than necessary.

 

[Edgewriter]

Best Buy rumors are that he's currently in town . . .

(Heard on a Facebook thread.) No idea if true, but it makes sense since he has no need to be in Dallas.

 

[NAOS]

Basically everyone has said the Hill extension is not happening.

We got no value for our cap space... again. Forgive me if I am not worshiping at the alter of DL and the Millers for their long-term perspective.

Also, we are below the floor... below it. I can basically guarantee we spend up to the floor which will actually result is us paying actual dollars that are lower than the floor... while we are in a playoff race.

Doing nothing (or essentially nothing) would be damning evidence, IMO.

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

Yeah, its called keeping up relationships with agents/player.

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Okay fine... why didn't we do one of the other deals? Look... we are good but we have clear needs and could have addressed some needs without hurting the asset base really at all. We have too many second round picks to actually use... we sell them... everyone applauds. We operate at the floor... everyone applauds.

Well I won't applaud... sorry. I realize no move makes us a contender, but you would make literally no moves if that were the case. We could have improved and punted... again.

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

Okay fine... why didn't we do one of the other deals? Look... we are good but we have clear needs and could have addressed some needs without hurting the asset base really at all. We have too many second round picks to actually use... we sell them... everyone applauds. We operate at the floor... everyone applauds.

Well I won't applaud... sorry. I realize no move makes us a contender, but you would make literally no moves if that were the case. We could have improved and punted... again.

Draft picks too important

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