Red
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They weren't my comments to begin with. What you forgot to do is read the article at the link. Which was not a requirement, but you might have made a more intelligent(just joking) reply had you done so.
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They weren't my comments to begin with. What you forgot to do is read the article at the link. Which was not a requirement, but you might have made a more intelligent(just joking) reply had you done so.
Red
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Meet Richard Spencer, the man Trump's right hand man Steve Bannon calls a "leading intellectual":
https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/alt-right-hate-richard-spencer_us_5833242fe4b058ce7aac26fe
My goodness, here I am posting something from the leftist Huffington Post. I'll try to balance this off by finding articles praising the neo Nazi boys as just what America needs. They do seem a fun loving bunch, these alt-right boys. Maybe I'm brainwashed and can't understand their movement is just what the doctor ordered to unify our nation and put it back on the path to greatness. I need to give babe's advice some serious thought and consider embracing, rather then letting myself be repulsed by all the hate speech. Who was it who just suggested Japanese internment camps had set a precedent we should consider? Maybe I should think about backing the winning side in all this. Maybe I'm on the wrong side of history after all....
https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/alt-right-hate-richard-spencer_us_5833242fe4b058ce7aac26fe
My goodness, here I am posting something from the leftist Huffington Post. I'll try to balance this off by finding articles praising the neo Nazi boys as just what America needs. They do seem a fun loving bunch, these alt-right boys. Maybe I'm brainwashed and can't understand their movement is just what the doctor ordered to unify our nation and put it back on the path to greatness. I need to give babe's advice some serious thought and consider embracing, rather then letting myself be repulsed by all the hate speech. Who was it who just suggested Japanese internment camps had set a precedent we should consider? Maybe I should think about backing the winning side in all this. Maybe I'm on the wrong side of history after all....
Also he just broke a campaign promise. So much for that special prosecutor.
https://www.cnn.com/2016/11/22/politics/conway-no-clinton-charges-donald-trump/index.html
https://www.cnn.com/2016/11/22/politics/conway-no-clinton-charges-donald-trump/index.html
Anyone who believed that is a dunce. Pres. Trump was at Hillary an Bills wedding. They are buddies. Bill has probably banged Evonka several times.
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Exactly. You cant believe anything that Trump says. I never thought he would go after hillary even when he was saying he would.
It is the same problem I had in 2008. We don't really know what they will do.
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tbh
Yes, true. But 2008 and 2016 were even more pronounced than usual.
Red
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From a somewhat calmer perspective
Steve Bannon subscribes to a "theory of history" that I am unfamiliar with. It claims to identify 80 year cycles in societal overhaul that can be applied to virtually any nation state, and that can be used in a predictive manner. I would need to know a whole lot more regarding the causative factors in this hypothetical 80 year cycle to even begin to form a judgement on this theory.
But, far more relevant is that Steve Bannon apparently embraces this theory of history wholeheartedly, and in so doing, his own emphasis on the theory's predictive powers suggests some damn scary stuff. This is downright chilling when one realizes Bannon is this close to the seat of power.
This is the most chilling information I have come across regarding the beliefs of Steve Bannon.
If this is what he believes and expects, I want him out of the White House:
https://time.com/4575780/stephen-bannon-fourth-turning/
As the man who ran Breitbart News, Bannon basically ran one of the leading venues for alt-right viewpoints. It should not be minimized in recognizing that the originator of the very term alt-right, Richard Spencer, clearly recognizes that the alt right is a neo Nazi movement:
https://fusion.net/story/371657/richard-spencer-is-a-neo-nazi/
Our allies clearly recognize the chilling nature of the rise of the neo Nazi alt-right:
https://english.ahram.org.eg/NewsCo...ermany-and-Israel-as-US-white-supremacis.aspx
It is also somewhat encouraging that Trump himself recognizes the need to distance himself from a group that raises the Nazi salute to him:
https://www.ibtimes.com/trump-conde...pencer-members-react-president-elects-2450209
But, the real danger is Steve Bannon serving as Chief Strategist for Donald Trump. Spencer may dismiss Bannon as alt-right lite, but he ran a leading alt-right Internet venue, and has expressed views very sympathetic to the neo Nazism at the heart of the alt-right movement.
Given his expectations of how historical cycles play out, anyone not concerned with the motivations of Bannon, and his powerful position as Chief Strategist for Donald Trump might be described as having their heads in the sand.
Am I a leftist linking to leftist sites and crying fire in a crowded theater for no damn reason but left leaning delusions, as some here claim I am? Again, I believe those who ignore what Steve Bannon represents do Americans a great disservice in not calling out neo Nazis for what they are. And that calling out includes pointing out that Steve Bannon has no damn business being this close to the most powerful office on the planet. Wake up people!
Steve Bannon subscribes to a "theory of history" that I am unfamiliar with. It claims to identify 80 year cycles in societal overhaul that can be applied to virtually any nation state, and that can be used in a predictive manner. I would need to know a whole lot more regarding the causative factors in this hypothetical 80 year cycle to even begin to form a judgement on this theory.
But, far more relevant is that Steve Bannon apparently embraces this theory of history wholeheartedly, and in so doing, his own emphasis on the theory's predictive powers suggests some damn scary stuff. This is downright chilling when one realizes Bannon is this close to the seat of power.
This is the most chilling information I have come across regarding the beliefs of Steve Bannon.
If this is what he believes and expects, I want him out of the White House:
https://time.com/4575780/stephen-bannon-fourth-turning/
As the man who ran Breitbart News, Bannon basically ran one of the leading venues for alt-right viewpoints. It should not be minimized in recognizing that the originator of the very term alt-right, Richard Spencer, clearly recognizes that the alt right is a neo Nazi movement:
https://fusion.net/story/371657/richard-spencer-is-a-neo-nazi/
Our allies clearly recognize the chilling nature of the rise of the neo Nazi alt-right:
https://english.ahram.org.eg/NewsCo...ermany-and-Israel-as-US-white-supremacis.aspx
It is also somewhat encouraging that Trump himself recognizes the need to distance himself from a group that raises the Nazi salute to him:
https://www.ibtimes.com/trump-conde...pencer-members-react-president-elects-2450209
But, the real danger is Steve Bannon serving as Chief Strategist for Donald Trump. Spencer may dismiss Bannon as alt-right lite, but he ran a leading alt-right Internet venue, and has expressed views very sympathetic to the neo Nazism at the heart of the alt-right movement.
Given his expectations of how historical cycles play out, anyone not concerned with the motivations of Bannon, and his powerful position as Chief Strategist for Donald Trump might be described as having their heads in the sand.
Am I a leftist linking to leftist sites and crying fire in a crowded theater for no damn reason but left leaning delusions, as some here claim I am? Again, I believe those who ignore what Steve Bannon represents do Americans a great disservice in not calling out neo Nazis for what they are. And that calling out includes pointing out that Steve Bannon has no damn business being this close to the most powerful office on the planet. Wake up people!
jimmy eat jazz
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How do you differentiate between equal rights and 'special treatment and privilege?" For years, that was one of the common retorts to gay rights (I know, because I used to be one of those saying it), that they wanted special treatment and privileges, when, really, all they want is the same opportunity to participate equallly in society like everyone else. But to those opposed to them, their lens of the world transformed 'equal rights' into 'special rights.'
So, I'm curious, what 'special treatment' or 'special privilege' are traditionally marginalized groups (e.g., women, LGBT, blacks, etc.) trying to get? Please enlighted us.
jimmy eat jazz
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This is a fallacy. All laws or rules that govern society reflect some kind of underlying moral principle. Being humans, we invest moral meaning in everything we do, and morals are the foundation of societal governance.
The question for policy purposes is: Which morals are those that govern us and what is the process that society agrees on what those morals are?
My issue with religion as a basis for social morality is that it is an appeal to authority basis of morality that, because it comes from a 'divine' inscrutable source, is immune to reasoned, rational public discourse. It's hard to reason with someone who sees himself/herself as representing the will of the Supreme Creator of the Universe. For this reason, religion as a source of societal morality is inherently anti-democratic. Political freedom and religion (as the organizing source of public morality) are incompatible. The Founders recognized this, and it is why it religion is the only source of public morality/policy singled out for special attention proscribing its power in our Constitution.