SUCCES! the left winning at banning guns!!!!!!!!!

[Dr. Jones]

2 reasons.
1. Our military need guns to protect me, you, and everyone else. (Civilians don't NEED guns. everyone I know has never needed a gun)
2. Our military are not killing lots of our own civilians with their weapons.... I never hear about grenade attacks, rpg attacks, jet attacks, etc, on our civilians by our military

I am truly flabbergasted by this.

 

[DutchJazzer]

If you have a gun you are threat to my liberty and safety. You can't guarantee that one day you won't get crazy or drunk and start shooting people in movie theater. You having no gun gives me that guarantee.

again you LACK COMMON sense, and you are uneducated when it comes to guns, weapons, war, crime and danger.
i am done talking with you cus if after 44 years you do not see the stupidity in enacting laws to stop criminals from doing something.
after millions of laws are made and criminals keep doing crime what makes u think MORE laws will stop them?

WHAT!?!

 

[fishonjazz]

I am truly flabbergasted by this.

Ya it's all pretty confusing

 

[Miggs]

I was talking about there is always risk in owning a gun in a home with kids. There is always some degree of risk. I thought that was a given in our discussion.

But there are plenty of other things that introduce risk into a home with kids. Chemicals, medication, cars...

Hell with my 8 year old she is at risk anytime she is awake. Woke up this morning while I was getting ready for work. As she walked out to the living room to tell me goodbye she walked right into the corner of the wall. Clumsy as hell.

Brilliant logic. Except the discussion isn't about chemicals, meds and cars. It's about guns.

 

[DutchJazzer]

Brilliant logic. Except the discussion isn't about chemicals, meds and cars. It's about guns.

i was gonna go the other route.
like people could go crazy and beocmea pedophile.
i dont want the risk of kids getting raped. so why dont we cut off all mens penis.

as soon as they hit puberty we cut of the penis but freeze a few dozen laods of his sperm so he can procreate later if need be.
this way there is no risk of kids getting raped.

men having penises is a risk to people getting raped.
its infringing on the victims liberties.

sex is useless anyway

 

[fishonjazz]

One question.

Why don't we completely disban our military, completely?

I'm flabbergasted as to why you asked this question without discussing it further. Did you have an answer or point.

I am truly flabbergasted by this.

Thanks for your meaningful contribution to the thread

 

[moevillini]

One question.

Why don't we completely disban our military, completely?

I am unfamiliar with the term disban. Please advise.


just kidding - I'm only channeling my inner viny

 

[Dr. Jones]

I'm flabbergasted as to why you asked this question without discussing it further. Did you have an answer or point.

Thanks for your meaningful contribution to the thread

It's called a starting point or speaking point. One shouldn't always spew their beliefs in an instant if they are truly engaged in meaningful conversation.

I asked the question because pro-gun posters are being heckled with labels such as paranoid and afraid of their neighbors.

Having a military is admitting the same, imo, albeit on a much larger scale.

Let me get on a personal level, Jake. I never owned a gun, ever, until about the time I had my third child. My wife was jogging on our street and a guy pulled up and grabbed her trying to force her into his vehicle. Luckily, my wife is kind of a badass so it didn't work. Not more than 3 months later we had someone break our backdoor while we were asleep and entered our home. Thankfully, he had broken into several homes that night and police were on his trail. Almost the same time he entered police came right behind him. He had held another family that night at gunpoint.

I decided to buy protection as a DUTY to my family. I don't expect everyone to agree with me, but I would expect most reasonable people to appreciate my right to do so.

 

[Dr. Jones]

I am unfamiliar with the term disban. Please advise.


just kidding - I'm only channeling my inner viny

lol - I was hoping no one would call me out, but was too lazy to edit.

 

[Miggs]

It's called a starting point or speaking point. One shouldn't always spew their beliefs in an instant if they are truly engaged in meaningful conversation.

I asked the question because pro-gun posters are being heckled with labels such as paranoid and afraid of their neighbors.

Having a military is admitting the same, imo, albeit on a much larger scale.

Let me get on a personal level, Jake. I never owned a gun, ever, until about the time I had my third child. My wife was jogging on our street and a guy pulled up and grabbed her trying to force her into his vehicle. Luckily, my wife is kind of a badass so it didn't work. Not more than 3 months later we had someone break our backdoor while we were asleep and entered our home. Thankfully, he had broken into several homes that night and police were on his trail. Almost the same time he entered police came right behind him. He had held another family that night at gunpoint.

I decided to buy protection as a DUTY to my family. I don't expect everyone to agree with me, but I would expect most reasonable people to appreciate my right to do so.

I picture you, a drink in one hand, gun in another, shooting it over and over into the sky, hysterically yee-hawing.

 

[fishonjazz]

It's called a starting point or speaking point. One shouldn't always spew their beliefs in an instant if they are truly engaged in meaningful conversation.

I asked the question because pro-gun posters are being heckled with labels such as paranoid and afraid of their neighbors.

Having a military is admitting the same, imo, albeit on a much larger scale.

Let me get on a personal level, Jake. I never owned a gun, ever, until about the time I had my third child. My wife was jogging on our street and a guy pulled up and grabbed her trying to force her into his vehicle. Luckily, my wife is kind of a badass so it didn't work. Not more than 3 months later we had someone break our backdoor while we were asleep and entered our home. Thankfully, he had broken into several homes that night and police were on his trail. Almost the same time he entered police came right behind him. He had held another family that night at gunpoint.

I decided to buy protection as a DUTY to my family. I don't expect everyone to agree with me, but I would expect most reasonable people to appreciate my right to do so.

Fair enough but with all due respect (you know I love ya) your comparison sucks.

The reward for a criminal breaking into a home of someone without a gun is minimal (a tv, computer).
The risk for the criminal breaking into a home of someone without a gun is large. (Go to prison, be hit with a baseball ball, attacked by a dog)

The reward for a country invading the usa with no military presence is a whole country and all its resources.
The risk is nothing really.

Huge difference.

Military need guns as part of their job/function/existence.
A civilian homeowner does not.

 

[Dr. Jones]

It's called a starting point or speaking point. One shouldn't always spew their beliefs in an instant if they are truly engaged in meaningful conversation.

I asked the question because pro-gun posters are being heckled with labels such as paranoid and afraid of their neighbors.

Having a military is admitting the same, imo, albeit on a much larger scale.

Let me get on a personal level, Jake. I never owned a gun, ever, until about the time I had my third child. My wife was jogging on our street and a guy pulled up and grabbed her trying to force her into his vehicle. Luckily, my wife is kind of a badass so it didn't work. Not more than 3 months later we had someone break our backdoor while we were asleep and entered our home. Thankfully, he had broken into several homes that night and police were on his trail. Almost the same time he entered police came right behind him. He had held another family that night at gunpoint.

I decided to buy protection as a DUTY to my family. I don't expect everyone to agree with me, but I would expect most reasonable people to appreciate my right to do so.

Let me add;

I hold my two year old little boy, my five year old little princess.. and my others, and I think to myself, I don't give two ****s what the gun laws are. I will protect them against anyone that wants to hurt them. I will not subscribe that a controversial law is more important than either my love for them or my sense of responsibility to them.