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Summer 2019 Roster Discussion

infection said:
I don’t know. In some ways it gets more complicated. We’ve got 10.5, 8, 4.5, 3, and 10 months. There’s never downtime and always something. That’s usually because the youngest two, though, but then the older kids have different demands, basketball practice, other stuff.

But I was thinking about your vasectomy thread the other day and wondering how you’re doing. Is the pain gone?
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Pain is pretty much gone. Some little **** here or there but basically gone.
 
LoPo said:
the other 25 All-Stars in Charlotte. Then again, maybe he wasn’t joking too much. The two-way recruiting has already begun, as he admitted following Sunday’s game. “It was really crazy,” Beal said. “A lot of guys were coming to talk to me and asking me how I feel. The recruiting process is really going all right. It’s going all right. I’m trying. This is new for me. So, I’m definitely getting some ears and seeing where guys’ minds are at.”"
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Maybe it’s a good thing Rudy and DM were snubbed. Lol
Wes Mantooth said:
My plan? To get through this day with my sanity. I’m solo with three rascals 4 and under.
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Betting odds on who survives, Wes or the rascals? :D
LoPo said:
Lol me too. 3 of em running around here. Why do they close school for Presidents Day again?

I'm just trying to my best to stay positive about summer moves despite a growing feeling of negativity.

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Thank god I have no kids. Dodged a bullet there. Lol
LoPo said:
Damn man. Sorry to hear that.

3 kids in daycare. Wow..... And all those places seem to do is price gouge. I swear they are little monopolies.

Vasectomies suck. Still have pain with mine from time to time. They completely botch yours?

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It’s comforting to know there will never be a need to get a vasectomy. My nuts are in it for the long-haul baby!!:)
 
I think favors is sorely under-valued here. I expect him to get a lot of buzz. I cannot imagine people thinking he will take a pay cut to stay here. If we do re-sign him it will definitely be for more money, and if not he will be a prime free agent. Not many players offer what he does in terms of defense, rebounding, decent offense, and generally always solid play. He isn't a top tier free agent but many teams will view him as a solid 2nd tier guy, so we won't get him to come back on the cheap.
 
LogGrad98 said:
I think favors is sorely under-valued here. I expect him to get a lot of buzz. I cannot imagine people thinking he will take a pay cut to stay here. If we do re-sign him it will definitely be for more money, and if not he will be a prime free agent. Not many players offer what he does in terms of defense, rebounding, decent offense, and generally always solid play. He isn't a top tier free agent but many teams will view him as a solid 2nd tier guy, so we won't get him to come back on the cheap.
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I like Favs and think he's undervalued a little. Here is the deal... if that was the view of him around the NBA we'd have more than a few offers lined up for him in trades. Dude has been on the block for 2 years and he's still here in part because his market is limited (like all non-shooting bigs). We have an option on his deal next year too... so that would have been really desirable.

If he gets more than around $10M per year my guess is it will be for a team that overpays for one-year... like we did... because they want space next year. Lakers/Clippers are teams I could see doing this. I don't think he'd settle for a lower number from us... in part because we have space and his caphold and there aren't other CBA related restrictions.
 
I used to think Favors had a bunch of value around the league, but I'm not so sure. He has been available the last two trade deadlines and nobody came away with him. Of course we might have overvalued him, but if he was that much in demand, somebody probably would have met the asking price.

Around half the league has max level cap space this summer. I have a hard time believing any team would sacrifice most of that space for a guy like Favors.

Somebody name a team who would sign Favors to a $17 million deal this summer.

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Handlogten's Heros said:
I like Favs and think he's undervalued a little. Here is the deal... if that was the view of him around the NBA we'd have more than a few offers lined up for him in trades. Dude has been on the block for 2 years and he's still here in part because his market is limited (like all non-shooting bigs). We have an option on his deal next year too... so that would have been really desirable.

If he gets more than around $10M per year my guess is it will be for a team that overpays for one-year... like we did... because they want space next year. Lakers/Clippers are teams I could see doing this. I don't think he'd settle for a lower number from us... in part because we have space and his caphold and there aren't other CBA related restrictions.
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#1 how do you know we haven't had offers?

#2 how do you know he has been continually on the trading block?
 
LogGrad98 said:
#1 how do you know we haven't had offers?

#2 how do you know he has been continually on the trading block?
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#1 cuz I think we would have taken a good offer... a first with no long term salary likely could have had him imo.

#2 it ain't a secret... his name has been out there for 2 years...

Also, dude was a free agent last summer. No one beat down his door and offered a deal that beat a one year $17M offer from us. Even a 2 year deal that gave him control over the second year at like 13-14M is likely better than what we offered.

there is a limited market for players like him... there just is.
 
LoPo said:
I used to think Favors had a bunch of value around the league, but I'm not so sure. He has been available the last two trade deadlines and nobody came away with him. Of course we might have overvalued him, but if he was that much in demand, somebody probably would have met the asking price.

Around half the league has max level cap space this summer. I have a hard time believing any team would sacrifice most of that space for a guy like Favors.

Somebody name a team who would sign Favors to a $17 million deal this summer.

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I could see him getting that for one year when a team misses on all long term options. Lakers, Clips, Dallas, maybe.

I think a smart team could offer him something in the 4/50M range and get some value out of that contract.
 
If we miss on Middleton, Harris, etc. I hope we pursue Julius Randle over guys like Niko.

Julius has gotten so much better and he's played for two teams not necessarily known for player development. Dude is a worker. He's shown progress with his jumper, but not sure he's ever anything other than a low volume 3 point shooter. The defense isn't great, but I think he can be passable next to Rudy. I like that he can create, is really efficient, and he's consistent. He's the rare guy that I think could be slightly undervalued in the FA market. I think he could really help us punish small ball, switch teams cuz he's such a handful in the paint.

If we replaced Ricky with a better shooter... even if it was more of a spot up shooter and not a creator... I think a lineup with Randle at the 4 could be super effective. I would guess he gets something in the neighborhood of 4/80M... in the same tier as Niko to me, but I think there is some upside there. If he worked with our group I think there is some real potential. I'm really intrigued even though he's kind of a throwback PF.
 
Handlogten's Heros said:
If we miss on Middleton, Harris, etc. I hope we pursue Julius Randle over guys like Niko.

Julius has gotten so much better and he's played for two teams not necessarily known for player development. Dude is a worker. He's shown progress with his jumper, but not sure he's ever anything other than a low volume 3 point shooter. The defense isn't great, but I think he can be passable next to Rudy. I like that he can create, is really efficient, and he's consistent. He's the rare guy that I think could be slightly undervalued in the FA market. I think he could really help us punish small ball, switch teams cuz he's such a handful in the paint.

If we replaced Ricky with a better shooter... even if it was more of a spot up shooter and not a creator... I think a lineup with Randle at the 4 could be super effective. I would guess he gets something in the neighborhood of 4/80M... in the same tier as Niko to me, but I think there is some upside there. If he worked with our group I think there is some real potential. I'm really intrigued even though he's kind of a throwback PF.
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I agree 100%.

Randle would do so well with our "catch the pass on the move" offense. He is a workhorse who is becoming a true triple threat player.

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Handlogten's Heros said:
#1 cuz I think we would have taken a good offer... a first with no long term salary likely could have had him imo.

#2 it ain't a secret... his name has been out there for 2 years...

Also, dude was a free agent last summer. No one beat down his door and offered a deal that beat a one year $17M offer from us. Even a 2 year deal that gave him control over the second year at like 13-14M is likely better than what we offered.

there is a limited market for players like him... there just is.
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So it's your opinion then. Fair enough.
 
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