Summer League: Jazz vs. 76ers Tuesday 9am (wake up early)

[Saint Cy of JFC]

I still don't get why Hayward and Burks can't start together. It's not like Marvin Williams is some amazing SF. I feel like Hayward has a pretty firm grip on one of the starting jobs and the other is either Burks or Williams.

 

[Dr. Jones]

I still don't get why Hayward and Burks can't start together. It's not like Marvin Williams is some amazing SF. I feel like Hayward has a pretty firm grip on one of the starting jobs and the other is either Burks or Williams.

I'd say zero doubt in that. But then ..

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

I'd say zero doubt in that. But then ..

Zero doubt in what?

 

[HotRodHundley'sBooze]

SLTrib Article:

-sigh- here we go again, with two players (Burks and Hayward) who both have a case to be the starting 2 sharing the minutes. The only answer is to move Hayward to the 3, which isn't a bad idea except that means we traded a starting former all star point guard for a bench sitting 3.

lovely.

Now that I have that off of my chest, I like Burks and hope he joins Hayward and Favors in an all star game or five. I just wouldn't want to be Corbin when these guys complain about starting.

You...you're dumb. Having two players with a lot of skills competing against each other to be starters is freaking good news. Do you know what competition does? It brings out the best in players. You know, another answer is to start Hayward at 2, Williams at 3 and use Burks as an off the bench scorer. Believe it or not, teams actually do that in the NBA.

Oh and I can do your little thing too. We just traded a declining PG with limited passing skills for the former #2 pick in the draft. See what I did? It's called a slant to make things look better, which you don't even realize you're doing.

Now that I have that off my chest, start looking at things more objectively, realize this is a business and stop posting so many stupid things.

 

[HotRodHundley'sBooze]

I don't really see a problem with this. I think one of those guys need to play a Harden/Lou Williams/Terry type role any way.

It's just a matter of choosing which of those guys to do that. I'd lean towards Hayward - he played really well with the 2nd unit last year. He can handle the ball & make plays for others. His rebounding should also help the 2nd unit.

Hayward really isn't that good of a rebounder. I mean, he's decent, but he could/should be doing better for his size. I don't see how his rebounding makes a difference whether he's starting or not, it's just not something that he'll ever make a large impact in.

 

[Dr. Jones]

Zero doubt in what?

I was agreeing with you and Hayward's starting spot.

 

[seattlejazzfan]

I still don't get why Hayward and Burks can't start together. It's not like Marvin Williams is some amazing SF. I feel like Hayward has a pretty firm grip on one of the starting jobs and the other is either Burks or Williams.

I'm agreeing with Nerd and Torbin on the same day. Makes me wonder if the earth is spinning backward - if so, who's bringing the green jello to YB's baptism this Saturday? To simply hand Williams the starting nod would be senseless. Not only is Williams not amazing, he's not even good. An argument could be made that Hayward's natural position is SF anyway, neverminding the fact that on the Jazz the 2 and 3 are basically interchangeable. Burks could start at the 3 and Hayward the 2 or vice versa.

 

[nightmare3983]

I'm agreeing with Nerd and Torbin on the same day. Makes me wonder if the earth is spinning backward - if so, who's bringing the green jello to YB's baptism this Saturday? To simply hand Williams the starting nod would be senseless. Not only is Williams not amazing, he's not even good.

He's definitely half-decent, which means you are correct in that he shouldn't automatically start.

 

[NAOS]

^ the **** thing about any discussion on the starting lineup is that we are still accommodating for Jefferson's style of play.

Burks and Jefferson don't really go well together IMO. But, if you get jefferson the **** out and add Favors' slashing, then things start to get exciting.

 

[Joe Bagadonuts]

Does not compute.

As odd as it sounds, I can't be the only one who goes from thinking Saltair the most clueless guy in history to wondering who is behind this pathetic attempt to pretend to be a buffoon.

 

[just because]

Burks & Marvin (Starters)

and

Hayward & Carroll (Subs)

I think those pairings would go well together.

You guys realize that Burks is in Orlando with the Summer league team and Hayward was in Vegas with the USA Team. Let's not put the cart in front of the horse.

 

[Stifle Tower]

You guys realize that Burks is in Orlando with the Summer league team and Hayward was in Vegas with the USA Team. Let's not put the cart in front of the horse.

I know Hayward ain't the best looking guy in the NBA, but there's no reason to call him a horse.

 

[Joe Bagadonuts]

Locke cracks me up. Didn't he "break" the story of Burks playing 1 in Summer League? He hasn't played a minute of 1 unless you can't the 3 or 4 Iso's to close this game. At least he looks good.

Damn him for being told something that didn't turn out to be true.

 

[The Fresh Prince]

Yeah, because a 360 put back slam is not obvious sarcasm.

Lol, you good. Obvious you just take the Washington shots at me though when you get em.

Wish we could pick up Wash and Gaffney if we were in that need. The two need to see the court together in the Summer League. Which, I don't think they have.

 

[seattlejazzfan]

Damn him for being told something that didn't turn out to be true.

IOW, his "sources" are garbage.

 

[Fishsticks]

ha ha no Deal. maybe a few weeks ago I would of But You and verlin and Some other posters are a little on the Sketchy side so I dunno bout meeting Up to play hoops sorry bro.

I take this as compliment. How's Rach?