Just a reminder where this whole 20 page discussion started - with me saying that deanondraft's comments about French players being overrated based on 3 Bilal SL games were lazy and bad analysis.
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Dean’s comment was posted as a joke to Cy. Sorry you missed that.
It was always about their their "Frenchness" and whether or not that matters.
You really should post more outside of draft threads. I really appreciate your posts when you do post.
Another great post here that hits the nail right on the head.
I mean this is literally where this whole thing started ... with deanondraft's comment that the lessons we should learn from Bilal's 3 SL games is that 1. French players are overrated and 2. trading down is better than trading up....
Both of those are HORRIFIC and lazy analysis.
French prospects from that league*
Which again is a fair stance based on history. If Bilal played in college and put up this production nobody would talk about him and nobody would care that he’s French at all.
I mean... you seemed to support his assertion at the time. Maybe I misread it...
Saying that a prospect is bad because he is French or that a prospect is bad because he played in the French league is dumb.
It’s not that they’re French that would be a ridiculous statement. It’s low usage low production prospects from that league that tend to bust. Most just happen to be French because it is a French league. If Bilal was from Germany playing in that league I would say the same thing.
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I don't know much... but I know that based on my recent luck Bilal will go for 25 today in summer league today. All you degenerates should find out what the over/under is and pound the over. Your are welcome.
I agree 100%. Bilal is a bad prospect because he’s not good and the league history is not on his side. Double whammy.
The problem is that we don't have access to a universe splitter so we can see what happens with that counterfactual where Bilal plays in college. We don't know what he would have done for Villanova or Florida or Arkansas... Maybe he's better and is given more responsibility... maybe he's even worse...
agreed. and the opposite is equally true. yesterday some stupid talking head was saying that the euroleague is providing soo much better training than america now that foreign players are coming in much more skilled. uhm, horse patatoes. wembi is a giant human being that can actually dribble. hes not receiving better coaching. just judge people on themselves instead of sterotyping people.
just my 2 cents on bilal. incredible athlete that cant shot a jumper. if he ever learns to shoot look out. right now not so much.
Well... then... then you would have really ****ed up with your analysis of Bilal. His whole career until this point would be null and void and everything that would matter would be that single game on a July afternoon.
That is true and we can go only based off of what he has done.
You're just being ignorant then. There was also a distinct change in Bilal's minutes/production after the start of the season.
It's insane how the people who know the least/watched the least want to be the most critical.
The Elizah special is moving the goal post.
If you put Keyonte on a French league team and he produced the way he did at Baylor, they would barely play him and he'd be shooting 35% from the field.
But would that make him an unworthy prospect all the sudden?