He just has that effect on people... you talk to him til you're blue in the face, but he just doesn't want to see it any other way. And pretty soon you're so tired of trying to make sense, you'd rather talk about doing terrible things to his wife and dead mother. *shrug*
How about we just not talk about people’s families in any negative sense at all. Not even in passing. That ***** pathetic and shameful. AT BEST