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I’m sure Thriller ranted about Bill Clinton and the Left too when Juanita Broaddrick accused him of raping her in 1978, infinitely more evidence to prove it too, than in this current case.
 
Fair enough. That’s why I asked if he drank. I thought he had admitted to drinking.

Thanks.
 
Not posting this because it reflects how I feel, just adding it to the thread because it's out there.

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I’m sure Thriller ranted about Bill Clinton and the Left too when Juanita Broaddrick accused him of raping her in 1978, infinitely more evidence to prove it too, than in this current case.

Bringing up more clinton stuff? What’s with you guys? It’s like a broken record. You folks can’t go one day without bringing up the clinton piñata. Using clinton to justify republican behavior is a quick way to be placed on my ignore list. It’s tired and so very lame.

I couldn’t rant because this incident and accusation happened before I was born. If clinton were interviewing for a judicial position, I don’t think you’d find me defending him.

It’s 2018, things have changed. Try something more relevant man. Clinton isn’t relevant. Doesn’t show hypocrisy or double standards as democrats aren’t defending sexual predators (see al Franken).

If you think bringing up clinton somehow reveals hypocrisy of Kavanaugh’s critics then perhaps you’re the one who needs therapy? Just a thought!

Why would kavanaugh lie about his excessive drinking? Why lie about yearbooks? These are facts easily disproven by countless roommates, friends, and classmates. Could it be because it ruins choirboy’s image? Because it only adds credibility to these accusations made by women who describe an entitled and drunk man who sexually assaults women?
 
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Not posting this because it reflects how I feel, just adding it to the thread because it's out there.

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Very powerful.

It’ll be interesting to see how this works out. My very conservative mother in law and starch pro life advocate has become extremely liberal recently. Scott Pruit’s corruption and now the treatment of Ford have been the biggest game changers for her. She was sexually assaulted when she was young. So despite her abhorrence of abortion, she really sympathizes with Ford. The republican treatment of Ford and dismissing the female prosecutor when interviewing Kavanaugh, really turned her against this judicial nominee.

She’s still very pro life but she’s angry at republicans and doesn’t want Kavanaugh on the court.

Republicans seem to think he’s the only judge they can appoint. They want to die on this hill. But it’ll be interesting to see if this leaves enormous scars that’ll last years. Can republicans lose large amounts of the college educated, minorities, and women voters and still remain relevant other than in the senate?

I guess we’ll soon find out!
 
I’m sure Thriller ranted about Bill Clinton and the Left too when Juanita Broaddrick accused him of raping her in 1978, infinitely more evidence to prove it too, than in this current case.

I looked this up to find out why you’d be posting this. Apparently Fox News had her on the other day. Did you watch it? Is that why you’re bringing her up? She claims that democrats are being hypocritical now. Hey that’s exactly what you accused me of being!!! Cool! Do you think you’re clever regurgitating Fox News talking points?

Apparently she claims that Clinton raped her in 1976 and accused him in 1999. So yeah, I guess I owe you an apology. I should’ve been up in arms. My hypocrisy has been revealed. I should’ve marched against Clinton and “the Dems” when I was in the 5th grade.

Being ignorant to sexual assault (or politics for that matter) back in 1999 when I was in elementary school but being against it now in 2018 as an adult clearly shows the hypocrisy that has infected “the left.” I most certainly have foreseen my ignorance of a man I didn’t kn

I bow to your intellectual prowness. You really kicked my ***.
 
I looked this up to find out why you’d be posting this. Apparently Fox News had her on the other day. Did you watch it? Is that why you’re bringing her up? She claims that democrats are being hypocritical now. Hey that’s exactly what you accused me of being!!! Cool! Do you think you’re clever regurgitating Fox News talking points?

Apparently she claims that Clinton raped her in 1976 and accused him in 1999. So yeah, I guess I owe you an apology. I should’ve been up in arms. My hypocrisy has been revealed. I should’ve marched against Clinton and “the Dems” when I was in the 5th grade.

Being ignorant to sexual assault back in 1999 when I was in elementary school but being against it now in 2018 as an adult clearly shows the hypocrisy that has infected “the left.”

I bow to your intellectual prowness. You really kicked my ***.
Wes is not a right-winger...
 
Wes is not a right-winger...

That’s fine I never said he was. But I find it odd that:

A. He’s repeating right wing talking pts.
B. He seems to be accusing me of hypocrisy for not lynching clinton when I was in elementary school in the 1990s. I guess I should’ve been more engaged in elementary school when I was a child to avoid being accused of hypocrisy when standing against sexual assault as an adult in 2018. My bad

Why do republicans focus on clinton but ignore what happened to Franken? Is it because it dispels the narrative that democrats justify sexual assault when attempting to gain political power?
 
So the FBI will investigate, the witnesses will say the same thing they did before because they wrote a sworn testimony in their letter to the Senate, and it will satisfy Flake (maybe) and Alaskan lady. It won’t change anything from the Democrats.

Maybe. Have you ever read a transcript of an FBI investigation in process? They have a way of getting information out of people.
 
@Bulletproof one thing I want to leave clear is that I believe in changing attitudes. I don’t like the cynicism that pervades politics today. I believe and trust most people are good at heart and are trying to do their best. But I don’t like the cynicism and backwards thinking we see today.

The first presidential election I voted in had a utah based initiative that outlawed gay marriage in utah. I voted for it being from a fairly conservative background. It only took a few years before I realized the error of my thinking and became an advocate for equality.

More recently, I changed my views on american isolationism. Under the bush era and start of obama, I probably would’ve loved the type of rhetoric trump daily spews against the UN and NATO. I grew up in high school and college under the war on terror. But over the past 5-6 years I’ve come to recognize our important role in the world, unity with global partners in maintaining the peace, and of combating the misinformation and evil of nationalist powers. I don’t remember but I probably mentioned on this site resistance to intervening on behalf of Ukraine against Putin’s aggression. But that was a mistake. I believe in America’s message to the world and ultimately would give the great sacrifice of blood on behalf of the greater good.

So it bugs me when people are cynical. They bring up past feelings from decades ago on gay marriage and sexual assault. Sure, back in the 90s and 80s, a lot of people probably thought homosexuality was an icky choice And women were raped because they wore skirts too short.

But to focus on such archaic beliefs is ignoring the progressive thinking of more recent times. Becoming better than we were. Learning from our past mistakes. Just because we justified sexual assaul decades ago doesn’t mean we should now in 2018. I’m fine with purging judges and politicians from both sides who mistreat women.
 
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