"Surprised if Teague Doesn't End Up in Utah"

[The Midnight]

I call BS. The buck stops at the GM's desk. He makes the final call; if he takes credit for Hood, he can't pass off a terrible mistake on a coach, It's laughable to assume Corbin as a new coach had Sloan-like power to demand a certain player. Also, DL pigeon-holed himself into HAVING to take a PG instead of BPA by not resolving the PG situation the season before. He had the worst backup PG's in the league and knew Mo wasn't coming back.

I think we give him WAY too much credit for being a draft "guru." Yes, I give him and his staff kudos for Gobert. Can't remember the int'l guy they hired, but I do remember he was the one who used to put together the World team for the Hoop Summit, He was the one who "found" Gobert and it was a very smart hire, Hood was a "no-brainer" pick as the highest rated player on the board. During the draft, his name kept popping up. 99% of us would have made the pick, But what hidden "gems" has DL found? With his 90 workouts per summer has he uncovered a Paul Millsap or a Wesley Matthews with one of those late picks?

2013 - Traded up for Neto. 3rd-string PG on almost any other team. OK, at least he made a roster.
2014 - Draft pick traded for a future, WORSE pick (Jokic or Clarkson would have been nice!)
2015 - Hanlan drafted, other pick sold for cash. Nothing exciting here.

OK, any FA moves of note? KOC brought in Memo and Okur. DL has found us Booker, Withey, Johnson and Little Sap. WOW, I bow to genius. Oh that's right...the slew of player development guys Utah has will turn scrubs into all-stars!

Let's say Gobert was a "sure thing" pick.... DL was still the only GM out of 29 who essentially stole the pick from DEN for a song.

 

[NUMBERICA]

Let's say Gobert was a "sure thing" pick.... DL was still the only GM out of 29 who essentially stole the pick from DEN for a song.

Sure, but he also traded a pick that could've been Gobert and another pick that could've (and reasonably may have) been Schroeder (or Giannis), all for a guy that we're all so relieved has gone from mostly dog-**** to serviceable/mediocre.

 

[Jaymz]

There is always the argument of "that player probably wouldn't have done as well with that franchise, who knows maybe he could have been a star with this franchise."

 

[Jaymz]

There is always the argument of "that player probably wouldn't have done as well with that franchise, who knows maybe he could have been a star with this franchise."

because there is raw talent, but then there is raw talent forced to fit into systems that don't compliment their style of play just because the GM like this skillset.

 

[The Midnight]

Sure, but he also traded a pick that could've been Gobert and another pick that could've (and reasonably may have) been Schroeder (or Giannis).

I don't know what went on in the war room that day. But this we know:


- DL was just recently made GM

- Ty was the coach who was hired by KOC and Greg and his job was secure

- KOC was still very much involved in the decision making even though DL was the GM in name

- DL credited Ty for the Burke pick and said Ty "pushed hard for him".


My take is DL didn't want to step on Ty and KOC's toes when making his first big decision and dealt for the pick that got us Burke primarily on Ty's recommendations.


Who did DL credit with the Gobert pick? No one. That was his pick.

 

[NUMBERICA]

*jerk off motion*

By the way, Sloan got a lot of credit for singling out Gobert. Lindsey likes to give credit, he's a nice ****ing guy. Don't read into it too much, neither ownership nor the FO was in Ty's pocket.

 

[The Midnight]

*jerk off motion*

By the way, Sloan got a lot of credit for singling out Gobert. He likes to give credit, he's a nice ****ing guy, but he was in charge.

LOL .. this is true, he did credit Sloan for Gobert.

 

[Stifle Tower]

Sure, but he also traded a pick that could've been Gobert and another pick that could've (and reasonably may have) been Schroeder (or Giannis), all for a guy that we're all so relieved has gone from mostly dog-**** to serviceable/mediocre.

Yep, when you back yourself into having to not only draft a certain position, but draft a guy who you think can come in and start, that's a terrible strategy. There are plenty of GM's who have drafted 1-2 great or very good players and then found themselves unemployed after terrible subsequent drafts, trades or failures in free agency.

 

[My2Cents]

Sure, but he also traded a pick that could've been Gobert and another pick that could've (and reasonably may have) been Schroeder (or Giannis...

Yeah, that would have been amazing, but I think I remember Locke or one of the beat writers saying Gobert would have been the pick at 14. Which makes sense.

 

[Siro]

Sometimes it feels like I'm in Groundhog Day.

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

I don't know what went on in the war room that day. But this we know:


- DL was just recently made GM

- Ty was the coach who was hired by KOC and Greg and his job was secure

- KOC was still very much involved in the decision making even though DL was the GM in name

- DL credited Ty for the Burke pick and said Ty "pushed hard for him".


My take is DL didn't want to step on Ty and KOC's toes when making his first big decision and dealt for the pick that got us Burke primarily on Ty's recommendations.


Who did DL credit with the Gobert pick? No one. That was his pick.

LMAO if you actually believe this. He picked Burke. It's his fault. By saying "Ty pushed hard for him" is just taking pressure off himself if the fails. DL is the GM. GM's have the final say in drafting.

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

*jerk off motion*

By the way, Sloan got a lot of credit for singling out Gobert. Lindsey likes to give credit, he's a nice ****ing guy. Don't read into it too much, neither ownership nor the FO was in Ty's pocket.

Or he likes to setup scapegoats for his decisions.