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Tank, Ty, and Tomorrow

I knew you'd come around. Good post.

I'll be scarce. No time for the daily, but lots of good posters here that I like to check in with as the season progresses. I'm usually behind, catching up on DVR, and this happens to be a rare moment when I'm up to date.
 
What makes you think George Karl wouldn't want to coach the Jazz if it were offered to him?

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Karl's a great coach AND at the end of his career AND hasn't won a championship. My guess is he'll hold out for a more championship ready team. Even with a top pick, we're a project.

That said, if the right offers aren't there and he has the itch, he could be seduced.

I love Karl. Unscientifically, just from watching, he's a master of turning 5 on 5 into 3 on 3 or 2 on 2 on the offensive side (lots of cuts, motion, fluidity, not the clunky "plays" Ty is always trying to run.) His teams always run. They always shoot 3's. They always share the ball. They're always Top 10 in offensive efficiency, and he did that with a star team (Melo) and the starless teams after. I see him on the same level as Pop, he's just never had all the right pieces. Not sure about the defense, but they play so up tempo that they were probably middle of the pack.

Point is, I have often wistfully lit candles wondering what Karl could do with this team. David Locke likes to pretend that we're so untalented we should literally lose every game before we play it (just so he can say how great Ty was when we almost won.) But the reality is if Karl coaches this team, we'd be closer to Phoenix than in the basement.
 
George K cannot manage a locker room which is part of the gig. Stay as far away from him as possilbe.
 
Few thoughts on the players, in order of most impressed:

1. Favors. The defense is obvious, the signs of an offensive player show up every game. He'll never be a PnR monster like healthy Stoudemire, but he's already better than Chandler. His contract is phenomenal.

2. Burks. Most impressed by his passing. Shooting on jumpers a close second. His game is a little constrained as he learns to play within an offense, but he needs more license to just take guys off the dribble. We only see this when the shot clock is winding down (and as a side note, there should be a concerted effort to get the ball in his hands when the shot clock is winding down). A good coach (not Ty) would set him free a little more. He's obviously a better driver one on one than on the PnR and that skill is being stifled. Alec's future in the league is on a team (I hope its ours) that lets him beat the guy right in front of him when he sees mismatches.

3. Burke. I thought he was going to be a dud but he's proved me wrong. He's not a great shooter, but he has this uncanny ability to make needed shots, and his propensity for great games gives me a lot of hope. He also has great potential as a PnR playmaker. Like Burks, he has an unteachable attribute: he doesn't care. He will play the same way every game and is totally convinced he will make the next shot he takes even if he's missed the last 100.

4. Hayward. Unlike Burke and Burks, Hayward pretends at confidence. On bad shooting nights (which are often) his tactic is to "aggressively" drive (with no idea of shooting) and kick. It's translating into assists, but at some point teams will realize he has no hope to score on the drive, will stay home on the perimeter, and let him flail one on one if he has the nerve to actually shoot. His flaws this season are predictable. He's always been a poor driver, a poor finisher on drives, he hasn't developed a runner, and he's shooting about 8 more times than he should on a more talented team. That said, I'm impressed he's stayed healthy, his transition D is superb, and he has great passing instincts. Not as good as AK in his prime, but better in some areas. In current terms, he's a less talented Gallinari, but should be a very useful starter on the right team so long as he's not overpaid.

Otherwise, Kanter just needs to play more (hard to figure out his minutes), Jeremy has been surprisingly useful, and I wish Gobert was playing. Otherwise, I don't care about any other player we have.
 
You mean half of the game of basketball? That's not exactly a detail.

He also has a reputation of his teams collapsing when the stakes are highest.

Meh.

Playoff failures are definitely a knock against Karl. My opinion is he overachieved with all the teams he had, and very few starless teams have advanced to the finals. Defensively, I didn't watch his teams enough to opine, and I haven't looked up the stats, but I know he never had a Favors in the middle. I think Favors is the best chip we have in making a pitch to Karl.
 
This is Locke-speak. Lots of fired coaches were just fine in the locker room even while their teams lost. Ty will join their ranks.

Have no clue what you mean by Locke speak. Karl has been an absolute disaster on managing the locker room and dealing with his teams motivation and emotional issues. If David Locke agrees he is right. This was clear when Karl was at Seattle and ever since. His teams will not win when the pressure is on. If you hire him, your team better be ready to win in the first few years because after that he does not have the respect of his team.
 
Have no clue what you mean by Locke speak. Karl has been an absolute disaster on managing the locker room and dealing with his teams motivation and emotional issues. If David Locke agrees he is right. This was clear when Karl was at Seattle and ever since. His teams will not win when the pressure is on. If you hire him, your team better be ready to win in the first few years because after that he does not have the respect of his team.

Locke-speak is the cliche garbage Locke throws around about Ty managing a locker room, or guys "fighting", or how great he manages vets, all designed to cover up Ty's putrid performance. Locke is not objective however hard he tries to pretend he is.

I've never heard this stuff about Karl's locker rooms being bad. Maybe you're right, I really don't know. But he is 7th all time in victories for coaches, so he's doing something right. I just admire the way his teams play basketball, and the way he has constantly adjusted to the guys he has. He's an old coach who sees the modern game and evolves, much better than Jerry ever did if you want a comparison.
 
Karl's a great coach AND at the end of his career AND hasn't won a championship. My guess is he'll hold out for a more championship ready team. Even with a top pick, we're a project.

That said, if the right offers aren't there and he has the itch, he could be seduced.
I can buy that. The reason I questioned why GK wouldn't want to coach the Jazz is that, IMO, the Jazz HC position is one of the more desirable destinations for a head coach. Although we may not be an attractive free agent destination to young PLAYERS looking for a more hip/glamorous place to live like Miami, NY, or LA, I think Jazz's reputation as one of the more successful and stable franchises in the NBA would be highly attractive to coaches.

I'd take Karl in a heartbeat if he wanted to come here. If he were coaching the Jazz this season, we'd probably be a .500 team or better right now.
 
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